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[–] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago
[–] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Need help with a proof-read of this reply im sending to a lib

Which country that spoke bad about the US did the US bomb?

Oh silly, what country didn't they bomb

yakkos nations of the world song begins to play

United States, ~~Canada~~, Mexico, Panama, Haiti, ~~Jamaica~~, Peru, Republic Dominican, Cuba, Caribbean, ~~Greenland~~, El Salvador, too.

Puerto Rico, Colombia, Venezuela, Honduras, Guyana, and still, Guatemala, Bolivia, then Argentina, And Ecuador, Chile, Brazil.

Costa Rica, Belize, Nicaragua, Bermuda, Bahamas, Tobago, San Juan, Paraguay, Uruguay, Suriname, And French Guiana, Barbados, and Guam.

(remember the jakarta method)

Faster music

~~Norway~~, and ~~Sweden~~, and ~~Iceland~~, and ~~Finland~~, And Germany, now at peace, ~~Switzerland~~, Austria, Czechoslovakia, Italy, ~~Turkey~~, and Greece.

Poland, Romania, ~~Scotland~~, Albania, Ireland, Russia, Oman, Bulgaria, Saudi Arabia, Hungary, ~~Cyprus~~, Iraq, and Iran.

There's Syria, Lebanon, ~~Israel~~ (palestine), Jordan, Both Yemens, Kuwait, and ~~Bahrain~~, ~~The Netherlands~~, ~~Luxembourg~~, ~~Belgium~~, and ~~Portugal~~, ~~France~~, ~~England~~, ~~Denmark~~, and ~~Spain~~ (dont you love fascist dictatorships in NATO).

Even faster music

India, Pakistan, Burma, Afghanistan, Thailand, Nepal, and ~~Bhutan~~, Kampuchea, Malaysia, then Bangladesh, Asia, And China, Korea, Japan.

Mongolia, Laos,~~ and Tibet~~, Indonesia, The Philippine Islands, ~~Taiwan~~, ~~Sri Lanka~~, New Guinea, Sumatra, New Zealand, Then Borneo, and Vietnam.

~~Tunisia~~, Morocco, Uganda, Angola, Zimbabwe, ~~Djibouti~~, ~~Botswana~~, Mozambique, ~~Zambia~~, Swaziland, Gambia, Guinea, Algeria, Ghana.

Much faster music

Burundi, Lesotho, and Malawi, Togo, The Spanish Sahara is gone, Niger, Nigeria, Chad, and Liberia, Egypt, ~~Benin~~, and Gabon.

~~Tanzania~~, Somalia, Kenya, and Mali, ~~Sierra Leone~~, and Algiers, ~~Dahomey~~, Namibia, Senegal, Libya, Cameroon, Congo, Zaire.

Ethiopia, ~~Guinea-Bissau~~, Madagascar, Rwanda, Mahore and Cayman, ~~Hong Kong~~, ~~Abu Dhabi~~, Qatar, Yugoslavia...

Crete, ~~Mauritania~~, then Transylvania, ~~Monaco~~, ~~Liechtenstein~~, Malta, and Palestine, Fiji, Australia, Sudan!

(left in the axis powers even though they fuckin deserved bombing, but then the US just propped up the nazis post ww2 so it barely counts)

this is just indirect or direct military imperialism and CIA, not even just economic imperialism, in which I would have everything in there

edit: idk why it ain't striking and bolding but whatever

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago (3 children)
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[–] Melina@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] CoralMarks@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Egypt sets up hospitals, tents for possible influx of wounded from Gaza: Report

rest of updateEgypt is setting up three field hospitals and triage tents near its border with the Gaza Strip in preparation for a possible influx of wounded Palestinians, The Wall Street Journal has quoted senior Egyptian officials as saying.

The officials also told the publication that Egypt has set up additional security cordons for an existing buffer zone by the border.

Egyptian officials have also discussed limiting the number of Palestinians that Egypt would allow to 100,000 so that authorities could manage them in confined areas. Preparations are also being made to set up tents in Rafah and the city of Sheikh Zuwayed, the officials told the Journal.

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[–] MolotovHalfEmpty@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Dominique De Villepin, former Prime Minister of France and long time diplomat, did an interesting interview on French television about the West's response to Gaza. Here's a translation:

"Hamas has set a trap for us, and this trap is one of maximum horror, of maximum cruelty. And so there's a risk of an escalation in militarism, of more military interventions, as if we could with armies solve a problem as serious as the Palestinian question.

There's also a second major trap, which is that of Occidentalism. We find ourselves trapped, with Israel, in this western bloc which today is being challenged by most of the international community.

[Presenter: What is Occidentalism?]

Occidentalism is the idea that the West, which for 5 centuries managed the world's affairs, will be able to quietly continue to do so. And we can clearly see, even in the debates of the French political class, that there is the idea that, faced with what is currently happening in the Middle East, we must continue the fight even more, towards what might resemble a religious or a civilizational war. That is to say, to isolate ourselves even more on the international stage.

This is not the way, especially since there's a third trap, which is that of moralism. And here we have in a way the proof, through what is happening in Ukraine and what is happening in the Middle East, of this double standard that is denounced everywhere in the world, including in recent weeks when I travel to Africa, the Middle East, or Latin America. The criticism is always the same: look at how civilian populations are treated in Gaza, you denounce what happened in Ukraine, and you are very timid in the face of the tragedy unfolding in Gaza.

Consider international law, the second criticism that is made by the global south. We sanction Russia when it aggresses Ukraine, we sanction Russia when it doesn't respect the resolutions of the United Nations, and it's been 70 years that the resolutions of the United Nations have been voted in vain and that Israel doesn't respect them.

[Presenter: Do you believe that the Westerners are currently guilty of hubris?]

Westerners must open their eyes to the extent of the historical drama unfolding before us to find the right answers.

[Presenter: What is the historical drama? I mean, we're talking about the tragedy of October 7th first and foremost, right?]

Of course, there are these horrors happening, but the way to respond to them is crucial. Are we going to kill the future by finding the wrong answers...

[Presenter: Kill the future?]

Kill the future, yes! Why?

[Presenter: But who is killing whom?]

You are in a game of causes and effects. Faced with the tragedy of history, one cannot take this 'chain of causality' analytical grid, simply because if you do you can't escape from it. Once we understand that there is a trap, once we realize that behind this trap there has also been a change in the Middle East regarding the Palestinian issue... The situation today is profoundly different [from what it was in the past]. The Palestinian cause was a political and secular cause. Today we are faced with an Islamist cause, led by Hamas. Obviously, this kind of cause is absolute and allows no form of negotiation. On the Israeli side, there has also been a development. Zionism was secular and political, championed by Theodor Herzl in the late 19th century. It has largely become messianic, biblical today. This means that they too do not want to compromise, and everything that the far-right Israeli government does, continuing to encourage colonization, obviously makes things worse, including since October 7th. So in this context, understand that we are already in this region facing a problem that seems profoundly insoluble.

Added to this is the hardening of states. Diplomatically, look at the statements of the King of Jordan, they are not the same as six months ago. Look at the statements of Erdogan in Turkey.

[Presenter: Precisely, these are extremely harsh statements...]

Extremely worrying. Why? Because if the Palestinian cause, the Palestinian issue, hasn't been brought to the forefront, hasn't been put on stage [for a while], and if most of the youth today in Europe have often never even heard of it, it remains for the Arab peoples the mother of all battles. All the progress made towards an attempt to stabilize the Middle East, where one could believe...

[Presenter: Yes, but whose fault is it? I have a hard time following you, is it Hamas's fault?]

But Ms. Malherbe, I am trained as a diplomat. The question of fault will be addressed by historians and philosophers.

(Continued...)

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[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (9 children)

Mike Johnson elected House speaker on first ballot with support from all Republicans

WASHINGTON (AP) — Republicans eagerly elected Rep. Mike Johnson as House speaker Wednesday, elevating a deeply conservative but lesser-known leader to the seat of U.S. power and ending for now the political chaos in their majority.

A lower-ranked member of the House GOP leadership team, Johnson emerged as the fourth Republican nominee in what has become an almost absurd cycle of political infighting since Kevin McCarthy’s ouster as GOP factions jockey for power. While not the party’s top choice for the gavel, the deeply religious and even-keeled Johnson has few foes and an important GOP backer: Donald Trump.

The new speaker is also a presidential election denier

“A lot of us know intuitively that there was a lot amiss about this election day. The fact that all these states with democrat leaders changed the rules in the fourth quarter of the game … and the allegations of these voting machines some of them being rigged, with this software by Dominion, there is a lot of merit in that. And when the president says the election was rigged, that’s what he’s talking about. The fix was in …

In Georgia, it really was rigged. It was set up for the Biden team to win …

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[–] star_wraith@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

https://nitter.net/AndrewMaclean_/status/1717234353669874025#m

Green Brigade ftw

Edit: fuck that’s a lot of Palestinian flags flying. Would like to see more but still a good showing.

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[–] Harajukum@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago

hope they get mega captured

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 29 points 2 years ago
[–] plinky@hexbear.net 29 points 2 years ago

My most liberal opinion is that palestine should abandon hope for two state solution, and go on brain-breaking spree on western libs about apartheid/voting rights/cross ethnic+religious wedding bans/water rights/travel rights. Because two state issues libs can hand wave as state sovereignity (despite palestine not being a state), harder to do about universal rights.

(opinion is liberal and advising palestinians how to wage their struggle is liberal as well)

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