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Nothing inspires curiosity more than making something forbidden.
That kid is gonna find out ALL KINDS of information that his dad doesn’t want him to know about from his peers. Some of it good, most of it inaccurate, but you go ahead, dad.
Dad is setting his son up for not talking to him when he's an adult.
We should all be so proud of Dad already preparing a life of dying alone. Bless.
He'll find out when his dad is the bad guy in the documentary.
Morons just won the Morons vs Reality case
is never exposed to books featuring LGBTQ+ characters
Bad news on that Bible, buddy
I really hope that kid comes out as LGBTQ in the future. I can just imagine them as Columbia at a Rocky Horror shadowcast midnight screening. Seriously!
I would argue that this is inhumane treatment of the child. Depriving people of publically available knowledge in order to enforce an ideology is mistreatment and oppression of said people.
Ideological control and enforcement should not be a parental right; this is child abuse. They're forcing the child into the parents' ideology, which violates the child's right to free thought.
The case isn't finished yet, I see, so maybe sanity can yet prevail. So far it's just a preliminary injunction.
“The question presented here is not whether the viewpoints of plaintiff, or those of the school officials, are ‘correct’ as a matter of religious faith or political or social belief. Nor is it whether the materials should be part of the kindergarten curriculum for other students,” Saylor, a George W. Bush appointee, explained. “Instead, this case presents a narrow question: whether these specific defendants have provided the required notice and opportunity to review materials that this specific plaintiff may find objectionable, so that he may opt his child out of classroom instruction that violates his religious beliefs.”
In granting Alan L.’s request for a preliminary injunction, which will remain in place while the case proceeds, Saylor ordered the school and district to “make reasonable efforts to ensure that J.L. is not taught or otherwise exposed to the content of the Identified Books, whether in the classroom or any other school setting” and to ensure J.L. receives “reasonable age-appropriate alternative instruction.”
Lawyers for Lexington Public Schools, however, said the district looks forward to “aggressively defending against these claims.” In a statement, attorneys Douglas I. Louison and Alexandra M. Gill noted the district’s existing religious-based opt-out program and that the Supreme Court’s Mahmoud decision “made it clear that depicting the mere existence of potentially-offensive values or lifestyles is not enough to warrant an opt-out, and that it is the messaging associated with those potentially-offensive materials that determines whether an opt-out is warranted.”
“In this case, the materials are not associated with any LGBTQ+-focused curriculum or paired instruction, nor was the student even exposed to the two books at issue,” Louison and Gill added, according to the Herald.
Louison and Gill also noted the burden opt-out demands like Alan L.’s place on schools.
“This is not like a student with a peanut allergy, where the implementation of an accommodation to protect the student is reasonably clear,” they wrote. “Schools are burdened enough without having to scour the pages of a storybook for potentially gay-appearing characters. At what point, for instance, is a character’s haircut too short to presume they are a woman? Are two men sitting together at a restaurant presumed to be gay, or might they just be friends? There are innumerable scenarios like these, and schools are now being forced to make near-impossible judgments.”
I remember sanity. That was like in 2010 when there was talk about Universal Healthcare.
Oh my I dropped my dentures.
Amazing they enroll someone in school to not learn things. Devout ignorance.
well they identify as christians, and devout ignorance is literally what they subscribe to so it checks out
Also worshipping a callous, narsiscistic bully lest they torture you for eternity, so it is really weird when people say someone like Trump is unchristian. He's actually godlike as he appears in the book, no wonder so many fall in line.
Kid is going to have a rude awakening when he runs a web query on his dad and everything that comes up has “gay” in the title.
Dad vs Reality lawsuit incoming.
As a Christian, I object to books featuring rich people, people who don't help poor people, people who don't heal the sick, and people who are mean to foreigners. Unless the perpetrators of those unChristian acts get their comeuppance, of course. Can I now demand from schools that my kid doesn't get exposed to those kinds of books?
Religion = denial of reality.
It should be illegal for religious people to indoctrinate children with their religious beliefs.
But in USA they have turned it on its head, and made it illegal to teach the truth because of religious superstition!
In Texas, voters just passed a constitutional amendment giving parents the right "to exercise care, custody, and control of the parent’s child, including the right to make decisions concerning the child’s upbringing" specifically for cases like this. Almost everyone I spoke to was in full support of it and kept saying "obviously a parent should decide what's best for their child". But as someone who grew up in a toxic religious family, it makes me so sad to see that there's no protection for kids in these situations. Parents can ensure they're doomed to a life of ignorance and bigotry before they even have a chance. :(
Legalized child abuse.
Why even have kids if they can't be warrior-slaves for your crusade?
It's the same as the "basic biology" argument. Twisting something to the point it breaks in order to justify their hate. The Bible has gay people in it.
In the Bible, one of the people that Jesus heals is the slave of a Roman soldier. In the original Latin text, the word they use is for a kind of male slave kept as a consort/sex slave. King David, one of God's chosen, is a bisexual man who had multiple wives and a male "friend" who "loved him in a way that no woman ever could."
Being gay or bi was so normal back then that they never bothered to spell it out, not thinking that centuries later some heretics would twist their words to spread their hate.
I see this as a complete parenting fail. It is not your job as a parent to 'protect' your child from the world, it is your job to prepare them for it.
That poor kid is gonna need a lot of therapy later in life after he/she moves out on their own.
Dad in the future: “Son, you never call or visit. You’re always so busy.”
Parents like this ultimately hope the child never moves out. It is a cult.
You realize they don't really care? They just do it to exert control over public institutions. It's a way of threatening and eventually firing progressive teachers. Majority of those court cases are manufactured by right-wing think tanks and the parents are just some random people. In many cases the "victims" suing were not even real. It doesn't matter. The Supreme Court will eventually take the case and give Christians another win.
Doesn’t this open the way for a parent to sue the school over Christian symbolism? A parent could should take that school to court over a Christmas tree.
It's Heads-I-Win and Tails-You-Lose in the Trump-stacked court system.
You're looking at the judiciary as some kind of impartial machine, but you need to see it as a Vegas Casino, where you can maybe win a hand or two here or there but the game is stacked against you by design.
There is no world in which a conservative court bans Christmas Trees or Crosses or any other Christian iconography, because these courts are run by evangelical Christians for the benefit of evangelical Christians. You might as well ask a Chinese court to remove images of Mao from the classroom or an Iranian court to outlaw the Koran.
Pledge of allegiance should be banned too
Opting-out should just be done away with. I had to deal with that, during school, and 8th grade was my first real exposure to non church kids.
I naturally avoided everything that was obviously gay-ish, just because of how I was brought up. I'm still learning things that I have to unlearn, 25 years later.
It really fucks you up in life, if you're like me and are an actually decent person that was just raised in the fucked-up cult of Christianity.
The entire process of getting woke was just a constant realization of the huge amount of different kinds of people and ideas I had spent my life shitting on.
I haven't done anything besides just blind hatred, but given how fucked the process is (of coming out of it), I've blacked a lot of it out. Kinda like I blacked out most of the week one of my brothers died. I've just kinda put up crime scene tape around memories that hurt too much.
The opt-out thing is only a tiny piece of my trauma, but it did hold me back yet further. And kids will humiliate kids that don't get to go to the sex ed classes. So beyond getting held back which I only realize the damage of now, at the time, being late to learning about sex was embarrassing, which I did feel immediately.
I get why the option is attractive to super religious and controlling parents, but given that they're all just blatantly wrong, this option should just be removed from their arsenal. If you want to legally harm your children, that's what private school (read: religious school) is for.
But public school should not support that choice. If you're gonna hurt your kids, you better have to pay out the big bucks to do it.
I mean yes but also You're out of touch if you think the judges value internal consistency like that.
And now because of the Streisand Effect, their child knows all about LGBTQ+ people while also having the knowledge that their dad is a piece of shit.
And now because of the Streisand Effect
The point isn't actually to "protect the child from knowing". The point is to censor school faculty from speaking positively of LGBTQ+ people and to exclusively degrade and slander the community from reactionary media organs.
The kid will absolutely know about LGBTQ+ people, because their minister will give fire and brimstone speeches about how the community is full of sinful and debauched degenerates. The kid will be raised to hate and fear LGBTQ+ people because they will only be shown to him in the most negative light.
This lawsuit guarantees any public employee who contradicts this framing can be legally fired, that they can suffer civil and criminal liabilities that bankrupt them, and that the kid can be used as a weapon to justify this persecution.
I think you're right.
I grew up in the '80s, and I heard more about "homosexuals" in church than anywhere else. (I also knew far more about abortion than anyone else in my kindergarten class. As an adult, I would say my understanding was not age-appropriate.)
The good news is that the final straw for me losing my faith was going to university and actually meeting openly gay people. They were nothing like I had been taught they would be. And the whole evangelical house of cards came crashing down for me.
I hope other kids in these sorts of households have similar revelations.
If there's a gilod, this guy's kid will be gay, and not shy about it.
As jesus preached "Don't be a bag of dicks!", and it's never stopped one one of these bigoted fuckers from cherry picking the message of their god. May his sons loafers be so light he floats.
As the Boston Herald reported, the father, identified in court documents as Alan L., is described as a “devout Christian” who objects to the inclusion of certain children’s books featuring LGBTQ+ characters in the kindergarten curriculum of Joseph Estabrook Elementary School, where his son, identified as J.L., is enrolled.
I don't believe in Christians
That dude is probably on Grindr
Ban books that show people wearing clothes with mixed fabrics! Its against mah religion!
Why do fundamentalist Christians choose homosexuality specifically as their hill to die on?
Leviticus 19:19
“You shall keep my statutes. You shall not let your cattle breed with a different kind. You shall not sow your field with two kinds of seed, nor shall you wear a garment of cloth made of two kinds of material.”
Deuteronomy 22:11
“You shall not wear cloth of wool and linen mixed together.”
Ok, no more Bible. After all eve came from Adam's rib right?
Some Athiest should sue to get all religious texts banned in that district, using this ruling as direct precedent.
$20 says this fuck rubs it to gay porn.
You honestly think its more likely that he's gay than just the standard kind of homophobic christian??
That is when you know you are losing when you have to hide the truth from your kid.
Bigotry ftw