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[–] Katerberg@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Missouri feels like a southern state, but St Louis feels like a midwestern town

[–] JCPhoenix@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

I-70 roughly divides the state north and south. So north of it, it tends to feel more Midwest. Very much like Iowa. But south of it, it definitely starts feeling more Southern.

But both KC and STL are solidly Midwestern. It actually makes more sense to look at them from another dimension: east-west. St. Louis is the western-most "Eastern" city, while Kansas city is the eastern-most "Western" city.

[–] Zoidsberg@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

As a non-American I always assumed "midwest" meant between the northwest and southwest. So like, California and the state to the east of it (Nevada?). Are the highlighted states not more "north middle"?

[–] ImADifferentBird@midwest.social 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You have to keep in mind that the US started on the east coast and then expanded west. A lot of the terminology we use goes back to those days, where everything west of the original colonies was "The West".

[–] Zoidsberg@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago

Ah, it does make sense when you put it that way.

[–] jecxjo@midwest.social 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I'm from Wisconsin, family from Michigan as well and traveled there a lot. Went to college in Iowa and dated girls in college who all were from Illinois. Now i live in Minnesota.

One thing i find odd is that Minnesotans don't do a lot of the Midwest stuff. No midwest goodbyes, no chatting up strangers as if they were your BFF, doing all the obligation events we never want to do but say "o yah we should get together", etc. The whole Minnesota Nice, aka being passive aggressive, isn't really that Midwest. Of all the Midwest I've lived in, the highest ranking one is definitely the least Midwest in my eyes.

[–] m3t00@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago

MNs seem like they have a Canadian influence. Based on a week I spent in Rochester and the movie Fargo, lol.

[–] m3t00@midwest.social 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

If I read it right, those were poll results from people in those states. Have to go read it again/

[–] jecxjo@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago

Yes, I know. I'm just saying Minnesota "Midwest" is not the same as the rest of the Midwest most of the rest of the Midwest is very similar.

[–] Nemo@midwest.social 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Kinda? Chicago just doesn't feel very "Midwestern" to me, but I did grow up in Sioux Falls, which is definitely the Midwest.

Chicago is on the eastern edge of what I'd consider the Midwest, but it's not really any further east than Milwaukee, which is definitely Midwestern. I'm not sure if the dissonance is just due to Chicago being a World City, if that cosmopolitan vibe is interfering with a Midwestern baseline or vice-versa.

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You've gotta include Minnesota. They're some of the most Midwestern people I've ever met. I think we might get a lot of it from Canada

[–] Nemo@midwest.social 3 points 2 years ago

Absolutely! Minnesota, Iowa, Nebraska, the Dakotas, Wisconsin...

[–] Cuttlersan@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Michigan is soundly Midwestern lol you definitely cannot call Ohio and Michigan part of the East Coast, and both of those are East of Chicago. Chicago is in the heart of the Midwest.

[–] Nemo@midwest.social -3 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Not East Coast but certainly Rust Belt or Great Lakes region. Nothing in Eastern Time is in the Midwest. It's the East. That's why they called it "Eastern Time".

[–] HATEFISH@midwest.social 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why would the name of the time zone matter? Also the upper peninsula of Michigan extends west of Chicago, can half the state be Midwestern?

[–] Nemo@midwest.social -1 points 2 years ago

Sure, but just the UP, everyone knows it should have been Wisconsin from the beginning anyway. /s

[–] Cuttlersan@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago

We’ll have to disagree here. Part of Michigan is in CST, and living here my entire life everyone knows we’re Midwestern. Weird way for a Chicagoan to try to distance themselves from us when we’re next door neighbors.

[–] Ascrod@midwest.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

By that logic, 87% of Indiana is not in the Midwest.

[–] Nemo@midwest.social -2 points 2 years ago

I'll go further and assert that none of Indiana is in the Midwest.

[–] potterpockets@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Good rule of thumb: if your state fought for the Confederacy you are not part of the Midwest.

Looking at you Tennessee and Arkansas.

[–] bquintb@midwest.social 1 points 2 years ago

If you're a bloody traitor to your country, you aren't Midwest.

[–] m3t00@midwest.social 1 points 2 years ago

used to be a cartoon map about East and West coast and a vast wilderness in between known as the Midwest. Don't see it in these results but there are many interpretations of Midwest. https://www.google.com/search?q=midwest+map