Deleted my twitter account a decade ago when I commented on a Canada Proud twitter post that resulted in months of non-stop harassment. It's always been this, they've just been turning up the heat year on year, and now people realize it's boiling.
Buy European
Overview:
The community to discuss buying European goods and services.
Rules:
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Be kind to each other, and argue in good faith. No direct insults nor disrespectful and condescending comments.
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Do not use this community to promote Nationalism/Euronationalism. This community is for discussing European products/services and news related to that. For other topics the following might be of interest:
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Include a disclaimer at the bottom of the post if you're affiliated with the recommendation.
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No russian suggestions.
Feddit.uk's instance rules apply:
- No racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia or xenophobia.
- No incitement of violence or promotion of violent ideologies.
- No harassment, dogpiling or doxxing of other users.
- Do not share intentionally false or misleading information.
- Do not spam or abuse network features.
- Alt accounts are permitted, but all accounts must list each other in their bios.
- No generative AI content.
Useful Websites
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General BuyEuropean product database: https://buy-european.net/ (relevant post with background info)
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Switching your tech to European TLDR: https://better-tech.eu/tldr/ (relevant post)
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Buy European meta website with useful links: https://gohug.eu/ (relevant post)
Benefits of Buying Local:
local investment, job creation, innovation, increased competition, more redundancy.
European Instances
Lemmy:
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Basque Country: https://lemmy.eus/
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๐ง๐ช Belgium: https://0d.gs/
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๐ง๐ฌ Bulgaria: https://feddit.bg/
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Catalonia: https://lemmy.cat/
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๐จ๐ฟCzech Republic https://lemmings.world/
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๐ฉ๐ฐ Denmark, including Greenland (for now): https://feddit.dk/
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๐ช๐บ Europe: https://europe.pub/
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๐ซ๐ท๐ง๐ช๐จ๐ญ France, Belgium, Switzerland: https://jlai.lu/
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๐ฉ๐ช๐ฆ๐น๐จ๐ญ๐ฑ๐ฎ Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Lichtenstein: https://feddit.org/
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๐ซ๐ฎ Finland: https://sopuli.xyz/ & https://suppo.fi/
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๐ฎ๐ธ Iceland: https://feddit.is/
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๐ฎ๐น Italy: https://feddit.it/
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๐ฑ๐น Lithuania: https://group.lt/
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๐ฑ๐บ Luxembourg https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/
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๐ณ๐ฑ Netherlands: https://feddit.nl/
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๐ต๐ฑ Poland: https://fedit.pl/ & https://szmer.info/
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๐ต๐น Portugal: https://lemmy.pt/
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๐ธ๐ฎ Slovenia: https://gregtech.eu/
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๐ธ๐ช Sweden: https://feddit.nu/
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๐น๐ท Turkey: https://lemmy.com.tr/
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๐ฌ๐ง UK: https://feddit.uk/
Friendica:
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๐ฆ๐น Austria: https://friendica.io/
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๐ฎ๐น Italy: https://poliverso.org/
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๐ฉ๐ช Germany: https://piratenpartei.social/ & https://anonsys.net/
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๐ซ๐ท Significant French speaking userbase: https://social.trom.tf/
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๐ต๐ฑ Poland: soc.citizen4.eu
Matrix:
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๐ฌ๐ง UK: matrix.org & glasgow.social
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๐ซ๐ท France: tendomium & imagisphe.re & hadoly.fr
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๐ฉ๐ช Germany: tchncs.de, catgirl.cloud, pub.solar, yatrix.org, digitalprivacy.diy, oblak.be, nope.chat, hot-chilli.im, synod.im & rollenspiel.chat
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๐ณ๐ฑ Netherlands: bark.lgbt
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๐ฆ๐น Austria: gemeinsam.jetzt & private.coffee
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๐ซ๐ฎ Finland: pikaviestin.fi & chat.blahaj.zone
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What X account? Or Bluesky for that matter...
Did it once that loser bought the platform. I use Bluesky.
If you haven't already quit then a whole lot of people have already made a whole lot of assumptions about your character.
I never had one, but I can see one single reason to keep it: Help pull over people to Fediverse.
If your user name is closely tied to your online identity, I am hesitant to delete if they recycle the usernames and some total nut job takes your old handle and people think you've gone off the deep end - just a thought.
Understandable, especially when there might be a lot of links to the profile around the internet. However, in that particular case itโs still possible to delete all content, contacts / follows, followers, and profile images and descriptions etcetera, make the profile private, and give it some semi-permanent dead existence, or delete if a year later or so.
Twitter and similar services are primarily used by narcisists that believe they're right in all matters.
Already did. Years ago.
Never had one, because it always sucked.
Idk why not using hell sites is so hard for people.
What if we start referring to ๐ as "that child porn site" in a mainly neutral tone? Would that normalize it? I'd hope it would make people look inwards, but idk if ๐philes in 2026 have that capacity.
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Those techbros actually have an unicode character?
What's X? Did you mean Twitter?
There are tons of good reasons to quit Xitter. Everyone should get on that.
That said, drawing a sexualized image of a fictional child is not child abuse, even if a machine does it. It lack the whole, you know, child being abused part that is kinda central to child abuse. Kind of like how South Park depicting Kristi Noem shooting a dog basically every time she appears on screen last season did not constitute numerous cases of animal abuse for either the South Park guys or Kristi Noem.
Now, if it's editing pictures of actual children to sexualize them publicly, shouldn't that also fall under revenge porn in addition to being child abuse? Time for at least a civil suit in that case, I hope.
That said, drawing a sexualized image of a fictional child is not child abuse, even if a machine does it. It lack the whole, you know, child being abused part that is kinda central to child abuse.
I get that, but the underlying detail is that for the "AI" to generate that, it most likely already saw it to begin with. Right-wing AI trained on child-porn, weird, i know, but it's this timeline.
Plus if users are prompting for that... perhaps as a platform you don't want those users.
What the fuck?
Fictional child pornography is still child pornography. This is not just about abuse.
Twitter having a tool to create child pornography is an excellent of reason to quit Twitter.
Yeah see that's cool, everyone's entitled to their opinion. My opinion is that anything that normalizes the sexualization of children should be shamed and shunned.
Sure, go for it. But the original claim in OP is that it's a "built in child abuse tool", and my position is that a drawing of a fictional child or childlike figure is fundamentally not child abuse, as no child was abused. That's the start and end of it.
Ok so your position is just based on semantics then, because someone used the term "built in child abuse tool" instead of "built in child pornography generator"? Is that really a leg you wanna stand on?
Yes, I am standing on the position that words mean things, and you cannot have child abuse without an actual child being subjected to abuse.
Much like how Rockstar doesn't commit millions of murders and steal millions of cars every year by producing games in which those things are depicted, nor is GTA a murder and car theft tool - it's not a murder if no one dies, and it's not a car theft if no car is stolen even if you produce a fictional depiction of such things happening.
There's nothing magical about a fictional depiction of a fictional child being abused that makes it any different than a fictional depiction of any other fictional crime.
A depiction of a thing is not that thing. See The Treachery of Images by Renรฉ Magritte.
So you really were arguing that Twitter providing a built-in child porn generator isn't a valid reason to leave it?
What was it trained on, though?
Even if what it produces is "not technically child abuse", it was trained on how to make pretend child abuse, emulating what it has already seen. It uses previous child abuse as a guide to make stuff. It may also mix and match the real child abuse to make pretend child abuse. There might be real abused children in those images.
That's bad, right?
A computer program trained off millions of pictures of people that the program's parent company acquired by hook or by crook and now any photo you posted of your kids is fair game to be recycled into the most heinous shit imaginable at the press of a button by the kind of slug still using Twitter. There is abuse happening there, when they decided to build a machine that could take family photos put online by wellmeaning people and statistically morph them ship-of-Theseus style into pornography with no safeguards.
If I were a parent and even theoretically one pixel of hair on my child's head were used as aggregate data for this mathematic new form of abuse by proxy, I'd be old testament mad. I would liken it to a kind of theft or even rape that we have no clear word for or legal concept of yet.
I would suggest just not defending this stuff in any way because you're simply going to lose, or from your perspective, be dogpiled by people having what you perceive to be an extreme moral panic over this issue.
statistically morph them ship-of-Theseus style
That's not really an accurate description of how it works. It doesn't like have a big database of labelled photos that it looks up and grabs a few that sound similar to what it's being asked for and then sort of collage those together. It's basically seen a huge number of photos, been told what those photos are photos of, and from them devised a general model for what those things are, becoming more accurate as it sees more examples and then it gets handed a block of white noise and asked to show how that white noise looks like whatever it's prompted to make. In painting is a little different in that it takes an existing image instead of white noise
The training data isn't part of the model itself (a big hint here should be the existence of LLM or image generation models that are ~10GB in size but were trained on literal terabytes or more of training data - that kind of compression would be absolutely insane and would be used in everything everywhere if the training data were actually part of the model). Several of them are even openly available and can be pretty easily ran locally on consumer hardware.
...but yeah, somewhere some model saw a photo of you in training and changed a couple of weights somewhere in the network by some tiny fraction, ever so slightly adjusting it's notions of what people look like and what the other things in that image look like, That doesn't mean any image created by it henceforth is in any meaningful way a picture of you.
I would liken it to a kind of theft or even rape that we have no clear word for or legal concept of yet.
Like anyone who has ever seen a child or depiction of a child producing any sexually explicit illustration of any sort everafter, then? Because even human artists do not create ex nihilo, they start from a foundation of their cumulative experiences, which means anyone who has ever laid eyes on your child or a photo of your child is at some level incorporating some aspect of that experience however small into any artwork they create henceforth and should they ever draw anything explicit...
Okay then, pedo John, thanks for the info
I tried Twitter back in the day (when it was still Twitter) and deleted it after a few days. I haven't really seen a reason to go back and I absolutely don't see one now.
I personally wouldn't mind seeing grok temporarily banned until it's verified that they have their shit AI image creation tool under control. I also hope that the result of this bull isn't going to be that X is permabanned in large parts of the world since that would mean further monopolizing social media to Zuckerberg alone. Any shred of competition has to be better than a total monopoly.