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I have been doing torrents + VPN for years now and thinking about switching.

Is usenet and debrid safe to use without a VPN in the UK? What about other piracy streaming sites?

From what I understand it's cheaper to use a VPN than have debrid + usenet + private indexers but I am not sure.

I have heard some questionable justifications as to why it's safer such as it being encrypted (torrents can also be encrypted). Are the index sites also safe? I have heard it both ways about this. Including people saying index sites are not encrypted which they normally are.

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[–] ensignrick@startrek.website 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Fwiw I use a VPN on debrid because I don't trust it otherwise.

[–] Apollo2323@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Which VPN you use? They dont allow some VPNs.

[–] ensignrick@startrek.website 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Mullvad currently but NordVPN also worked. Not sure what debrid service your using but rd has a page that lists compatible VPN services

[–] Apollo2323@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

I just look at that website you mentioned but what do they mean by cooperative? I don't think you will get in trouble by using Real Debrid is just a server and they are hosting the media you are just downloading it from them

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I use the usenet because leeching is legal in my country. I think, we wouldn’t be able to reach the speed we have with using a VPN to be honest. So, if it is possible to use the usenet without VPN in UK, I think you may have faster download speed, but I’m not quite sure if VPN is really the bottleneck, usually.

[–] areyouevenreal@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Speed is not the concern with using a VPN. Having to pay for both is the concern.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I guess with the new privacy killing law in UK, you always want to have a VPN ready, just in case.. Talking about this https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/2022/01/uk-online-safety-bill-set-to-weaken-encryption-and-put-uk-internet-users-at-risk/

Yeah they have tried that before and never got it passed or implemented afaik. Honestly the people of my country need to burn half the government down and start again. It's just sad. Still doing better than the US somehow.

[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Is there a way to download from Usenet for free?

[–] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 years ago

No, since bandwidth isn't free. It's necessary to pay for usenet like it's necessary to pay an ISP and a VPN provider. Their services cost them money.

[–] SmokeFree@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

usenet farm gives 10gb per email. Downloading new contents or new nzbs, no issues. Old contents, not so much.