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[–] mean_bean279@lemmy.world 161 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The US military heard it and didn’t necessarily want to give away capability of listening devices around the sea floor.
The sub was difficult to get to the debris field because it was at an incredibly deep section that few craft are capable of reaching safely.

It was frustrating they made a big deal about something we ultimately could have done nothing about in the first place. However it’s not like the whole “hearing the implosion” thing was something the military wanted to give away and at that depth we have to be careful. Don’t forget we’ve put more people into space than have been to the deepest point on the planet.

[–] elvith@feddit.de 60 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Don’t forget we’ve put more people into space than have been to the deepest point on the planet.

Fun fact, space is easier. It takes more effort to get there, sure. Coming from the "normal pressure" here on earth (about 1 atm) and going to space (0 atm) is a pressure difference of 1 atm. But: Diving into the ocean, the pressure increases the deeper you go. For every ~10 meters (~33ft) you go deeper, the pressure increases by 1 atm.

That means, that a space ships would only need to dive 10 m deep to get to the pressure difference it experiences in space. They went to see the Titanic which is about 3,800 m deep. So the sub needs to withhold a pressure difference that's about 380 times higher than a space ship experiences.

(OK, little difference I omitted: In space you need to prevent the vehicle from exploding, while in the deep sea you need to prevent it from imploding)

[–] TheOgreChef@lemmy.world 66 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The atmospheres of pressure gag on Futurama is still one of the best that show ever did.

[–] rotopenguin 10 points 2 years ago

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[–] mean_bean279@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago

Yup, it’s part of why the idea of rescuing them was never going to happen either. There’s only something like 3 subs in the world that can dive to that depth and they weren’t close enough nor built for rescue missions. Even if they were alive they only had 3 days worth of oxygen. Honestly they’re lucky that the “sub” just imploded rather than dealing with the slow loss of oxygen.

[–] SuckMyWang@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

So why did they reveal that info after if it was so sensitive? I wouldn’t have thought that would have changed anything. I also have vague memories of reports of a “sound” being detected early on but then not mentioned again until after. Then again my memory is trash so I dunno

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How quickly they process the information, how accuratly they could determine the source, and how accuratly they could determine the location would all be fairly sensitive information.

Basically what I'm saying is that if they announced right after it happened that "Hey guys that sub imploded at X depth and the debris field will be at Y location because we heard a pressure vessel of the correct size crush followed by the sound of something of roughly the correct mass crashing into the sea floor." Then everyone would know how capable our equipment is.

Basically announcing it days later gives a conclusion to the questions of what happened and also will likely keep others from meeting a similar fate. Not to mention the benefit of telling other countries that "Yes we can and will find out about what goes on underwater, just how quickly is more of a mystery... For you."

[+] SuckMyWang@lemmy.world -20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

No offence but if you have this line of thinking it’s fairly safe to assume other countries have people whose job it is to think this way who would have easily come to the same conclusion. I mean how quickly isn’t leaving too much to the imagination. I would just assume they’re capable of doing everything you mentioned plus more

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 2 years ago

The accuracy is a big part of it

Saying "We heard something in that multi square mile area that may be worth looking into" is way different than "We know exactly where and what it was"

And how quickly they could definitively identify what the sound was and where can play a big role in identifying capabilities of the systems at play and the how advanced they are

And of course knowing capabilities is a key part in developing systems to circumvent such systems

Basically what I'm trying to say in entirely too many words is that specifics matter a lot, especially to the military. And specifically knowing what someone is capable of can be used as a way of getting around it or using their own systems against them. Especially so that you know you're not investing in systems research that is already defeated by anothers systems.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Welcome to how spying works

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No. They heard it at the surface. You hear the equivalent of hundreds of pounds of explosives going off within a few thousand feet. It probably even vibrated the boat a bit.

It was the equivalent of a massive depth charge. They heard it at the surface near by unless the entire crew was sound asleep.

[–] GenesisJones@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Source for all that please, I'm interested.

[–] linux2647@lemmy.sdf.org 160 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Definitely thought this was talking about a subreddit and I got real confused there for a minute 😅

[–] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

It isn't? I'm still confused what else a "sub" could be in this context...

Edit: after reading more it's "submarine", I've spent way too much time on Reddit.

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 20 points 2 years ago

A submarine. You remember the rich maniac who wanted to see the titanic wreck and didn't apply to any safety regulations since it's international water

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 2 years ago

*submersible

Submersibles, unlike submarines, have to be transported to where they are going to operate by a different vessel.

[–] moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 years ago

yeah still getting used to lemmy, months later

[–] db2@sopuli.xyz 86 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Send more billionaires to see the boat.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 57 points 2 years ago (1 children)

2027 headline: "Craft carrying six billionaires lost at sea during voyage to see the wreckage of the submarine that went last year to see the wreckage of the submarine that went to see the wreckage of the submarine that went to see the wreckage of the submarine that went to see the wreckage of the Titanic in 2023."

[–] SuckMyWang@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Book now for the next layer of viewing! (And showing)

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 14 points 2 years ago

"Be a part of history!"

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Tell them it is a tax haven

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A tax haven is the closest to heaven they will ever get.

[–] rotopenguin 4 points 2 years ago

Did you know that property transfers below 12000ft are non-taxable? Few people know that tax laws have a little glitch where they do not apply below 12000ft.

[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I would like to nominate Bezos, Musk and of course Trump. Those would be my top 3 I think.

[–] tobbue@feddit.de 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But why did you only name 2 billionaires

[–] rotopenguin 4 points 2 years ago

I'll let Donnie slide on this one

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 59 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What I want to know about that accident is, which idiot kept spreading the lie that the search teams were hearing "banging noises" every half hour, long after the sub had imploded.

[–] jdeath@lemm.ee 17 points 2 years ago

Somebody was doing a little trolling

[–] Deiskos@lemmy.world 42 points 2 years ago

Where's the meme

[–] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Remember when there was a boat full of migrants that sank around the same time and nobody in power gave half a shit about it even though it would've been way easier to locate and rescue those people?

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Corporate media moment, dry humping us for ad revenue

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I mostly remember the non-stop memes from the moment they went missing.

Good times.

[–] ElectricTrombone@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Controller disconnected.

[–] catfish@programming.dev 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

And they were searching every fuckin where but the spot they went down

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago

They weren't searching anywhere at all, because they didn't have a suitable submersible available. They were looking on the surface in case they popped up, but once the remote submersible got there, they went straight down to the wreck.

[–] SuckMyWang@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Easy there, you’re overthinking this /s

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Do I remember one of the most recent media jippos? Or is that the joke..?

[–] SuckMyWang@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Well, there wouldn’t be much conversation if you didn’t and yes Pepperidge farm remembers

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yeah, Im still wondering if they ever had definitive results from their investigation of the wreckage.

[–] connaisseur@feddit.de 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The Logitech controller surely was not to blame.

[–] SuckMyWang@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Ironically it copped a lot of flack but I don’t think it was

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 years ago

Of course not, it's not like it was a Mad Catz controller. Logitech is at least a little bit better than that.

[–] xeekei@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

I don't know, their new Hub software is kinda bad...

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Probably still ongoing, it's not a fast process typically.

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