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SSD NAS may be more common in the next few years (alien.top)

submitted 2 years ago by eternelize@alien.top to c/datahoarder@selfhosted.forum

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I feel like we're finally starting to get SSD prices close to HDD. Not to mention the capacity. I just saw an 8 TB Samsung for $300. That's about $37 per TB. A bit more than twice that of most HDD. If we factor in size, power consumption, heat, and performance, that's still a really good value! Anyone know of a good 5-12 bay enclosure haha.

And in the next couple years, we will likely see SSD in the 10-20 TB range. Hell, 20-50 TB should be plenty for a majority of data hoarder except for the most extreme. In fact, I think you can get most movies and shows in decent quality for around 100 TB. Unless you're downloading just to be downloading to build that stash, then most will never approach that amount.

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[–] XOIIO@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I mean, yeah...

You can even get 100TB SSD's today, if you can afford to spend a years salary on it.

[–] KreyserYukine@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Yes, Exadrive had 100TB SSD at 40 grand apiece (and from my neck of the woods, that's more like...10 years salary, basically you can get a home at that price point)

[–] Aeristoka@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Good HDD sales dip to $12.50/TB or below, so that's more than 3x the price of HDDs still.

[–] FireZoneBlitz@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I just buy used SAS drives from eBay and have them in HP disk shelves. Super cheap and automated recovery with a spare drive and RAID setup.

[–] jmclaugmi@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

$400.00 for a 200MB drive

Yes I am old

[–] grublets@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

CA$2200 for a 10 MB Sunol Systems enclosure.

[–] FourDimensionalTaco@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

From what I recall, SSDs are not suitable for long term offline storage, because the same quantum tunneling effect that makes flash memory work in the first place also leads to data corruption over time. So, you need to power these things regularly. Hard disks however can sit unpowered for quite some time. Does anybody know more?

[–] ButlerofThanos@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

SSD's have been stuck at 4TB for a very long time, the recent lift up to 8TB 2.5" drives is good, but progression to high capacity drives is still going extremely slowly. Drives seem to have stalled at 15.36TB and 30.72TB in the enterprise, so I'm not too hopeful we'll see consumer drives of similar capacity at consumer price points for another 3-5 years.

The one glimmer of hope though is the announcement of 28TB HDDs that might force SSD manufacturers have to actually try and compete it that might drive some of the enterprise capacity drives and tech into the consumer space sooner.

[–] EasternNotice9859@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

SSDs have come down in price steadily. New developments are still contributing to lower price per GB. I have seen SSDs for $30/TB this year.

HDD price has been very stagnant, the slope is almost level. $13.75/TB is a good price at retail. New developments enable larger disk sizes but do not cause a significant lowering of price per GB.

Right now SSD is a under 2.5x the price. Not so long ago it was 8x the price. Unless something unexpected occurs, parity will be reached in 5 years or less.

Once parity is reached - or even if SSD gets to 1.25x the price - I cannot think of a good reason to buy HDD.

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