We are digital librarians. Among us are represented the various reasons to keep data -- legal requirements, competitive requirements, uncertainty of permanence of cloud services, distaste for transmitting your data externally (e.g. government or corporate espionage), cultural and familial archivists, internet collapse preppers, and people who do it themselves so they're sure it's done right. Everyone has their reasons for curating the data they have decided to keep (either forever or For A Damn Long Time (tm) ). Along the way we have sought out like-minded individuals to exchange strategies, war stories, and cautionary tales of failures.
I had three 14tb drives fail within two weeks of each other. Two of them made horrible clicks and failed their SMART checks. The other I had to unplug to get my computer to boot.
I assumed it was my raid/passthrough card or cables doing something weird (eBay so you never know) but after reading some of the anecdotes here, I'm not so sure.
To make things even better - I submitted that RMA in August and I'm still waiting on the replacements because "the warehouse is backordered."
What else but Seagate?
Thats like near statistically impossible. They had to of been failing for some time. IMO
I did a case swap back at the end of 2022, but that's about it. I upgraded to the Fractal Meshify 2 XL, which can hold up to 20 drives, and I had about 8 in there, made sure to give good space. Plus, it's in my basement, and according to HD Sentinel, my drives range anywhere from 27c - 32c.
Prior to the failures, no physical shifts/movement on the case or the drives.
Are you hooked up to UPS power?
had to have* been
This could happen if the PSU gives wrong or unstable voltages to the driver. Or If there were power-outs in your area.
I had two 20tb shit out on me in less than two months over the summer.
First, sorry for your loss. Regardless of the case, if they are really not working it is still a possible big data loss and hit on the pocket.
It is weird to happen at the same time. Have you checked them on another machine? Other SATA/SAS controller? If it is, for example, a power issue problem it may happen to other drivers soon too.
Maybe they have been powerfully hit by something?
Just trying to help with finding the culprit, since it is so unlikely that 3 have died in such a similar time frame.
I recently lost an 18tb drive. My younger 6x18tb RAIDZ2 array has been losing drives faster than my 9x8tb RAIDZ2 array. In the past I lost two 18tb drives at once.
Have you actually checked if the drives are really dead and it's not the SATA controller itself or other factors?
Drives do physically turn on, but all 3 are making really awful clicking and grinding noises that sound like failures. Pretty much on par to this video.
Isn't it a bit pointless to blank out the serial numbers of the drives, but not blank out the barcode for the serial numbers of the drives?
Friends don’t let friends buy Seagate
And some of you guys told me not to get WD RED drives from Prime day.
Mine are still working, so there's that.
There me been crazy with zfs z3 redundancy (plus 2 backups with less redundancy z2 or raid5/SHR1)
Mutiple drive failures within a short time probably means no extended scans are Been performed at all for posable pre failure detection (recommend every 3 or 1 monthly) and data scrub monthly
If these were in a RAID array, what can happen is that when one drive goes bad, the other drives get pushed into overdrive during recovery, which can then tip those over the edge.
There is no "going into overdrive", there's just more work which means a higher chance some of the work fails.
To quote Morpheus: Death can come for us at any time.
Funny you should mention BackBlaze.
They post annual reports on how many drives they have failed in a year.
Seagate was always on the top in % by a large margin. WD HGST which is now WD Toshiba
Seagate is the most TB per $ but meh...
Well its seagate for ya, but 3 in a single week is insaine, what setup was it ?
I feel like there should be more available information on drive model failures before 5 years of use (or a certain number of hours), rather than blanket databases on which drives fail
There's too many factors and things we have no idea about that.. We can't say anything about it.. How, what happened to them and stuff.. 3 in week? I wouldn't be surprised if they were used to mining or there was electrical failure in setup, but until we learn about causes, there's no way we will know..
I personally have Seagate as my main storage.. Am I concerned about it's state? Well it's only storage, it ain't even plugged most of time, so I'm more scared about corrosion than actual failure.. I have decade old Apollo drive filled with data. Unless there'll be anything mechanical that will damage it.. I doubt it will catch bigger issues than filesystem errors
Never buy multiple drives from the same batch kids
F
I had that happen once with my dads computer.
It was a bad PSU.
I used to work for an MSP and we had a couple of clients that ran Seagate drives. They'd constantly fail to the point I was driving out to their location and replacing a drive or two every other week. I will never use Seagate again.
Were they all from the same batch?
Maybe a manufacturing defect?
I'd be interested to see the disk stats, since the DOM on 1 of them is 2019, and the other 2 are mid-2020, but user states they only ran for 2 years?
I hate seagate drives. Never again.
I have had twice WD HDD's (black ones though), and both times they just died for no particular reason.
Yipe, I'm running recertified Exos X18 drives and my RAID can only lose one. That's some nice nightmare fuel :)
Where did you buy them by the way? I wonder if from newegg since they have a suspicious low price there.
Wow thats rough I just lost my 10TB barracuda pro last week as well
