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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/43965516

It is worth noting that both the hardware and software of Fairphone is heavily dependent on a Chinese company T2Mobile.

For those looking to avoid both US and Chinese companies, then the Jolla phone is the way to go.

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[–] calmluck9349 8 points 2 days ago (3 children)

They should partner use grapheneos and sell in USA.

[–] hamsterkill@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 day ago

Personally, I'd love a phone I can experiment with pure Linux OSs or Sailfish on.

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I just bought a FP6 with /e/os installed by Murena in the US and it's been great so far except that RCS isn't supported by /e/os so group texts don't work. Which is honestly a huge issue that is causing enough social friction that I'll probably revert to an iPhone soon.

[–] hamsterkill@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 day ago

They partner with Murena for selling to the US right now (though its only usable on Tmobile).

They are trying to enter the US market on their own (perhaps with the Fairphone 7), but the US carriers make things way more complicated than other markets. They already sell their headphones in the US through Amazon as of late last year.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is why new laws are being passed to verify ID on a hardware level. They know the enshittification has progressed to the point that people are starting to break away. They want to put a halt to that by any means necessary.

[–] maplesaga@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'd be curious, it seems obvious the world is coordinating it in some way.

[–] rezifon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I don't think it requires or implies coordination. What looks like coordination might simply be an overall increase in authoritarian governments globally which all share many of the same incentives to limit privacy and increase population tracking.

[–] Konstant@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Could be just a trend that gained some momentum. If it's coordinated or not I don't know.

[–] Omnipitaph@reddthat.com 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Have any of you checked out the reviews on their site? The one's in Dutch?

Hilarious. Almost none of the reviews are about the phone itself, but the promotions surrounding it, whether its available in certain stores, and my favorite, the font on the case.

I guess the phone is so awesome they have to think of other stuff to complain about. I just want to know if the phone is good!

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago

Slab phone is solved tech already and this is the time where we can vote for more ethical solutions without really losing anything. The newest fairphone is basically just a standard android flagship.

[–] aproposnix@scribe.disroot.org 83 points 3 days ago (17 children)

I got my gen 6 a few days ago with /e/os installed. I definitely don't regret it.

[–] blinfabian@feddit.nl 18 points 3 days ago (6 children)

same, but installing a different launcher is sadly mandatory as the default is ass

[–] 18107@aussie.zone 8 points 3 days ago

I didn't know you could use different launchers until a few weeks ago. I'm so much happier with Lawnchair.

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[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is exactly what we need: profound economic warfare, and lawfare against the sources exploiting us. We need to organize and support the groups that fight the forces leading to us getting exploited.

Our problems are fundamentally human sourced, and we need to take action to stop being vulnerable to exploitation and coercion.

All other problems CAN be resolved with time and work.

[–] oftenawake@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Some of those who work forces, Are the same who close sources....

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[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They have a "fair labor" agreement with China so that it is as ethically sourced as possible. People can't just get anything somewhere else. They are at least trying.

[–] tb_@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

They also set up an initiative around the fair extraction of cobalt.

For the specs alone it is an expensive phone, but well worth it to me.
I do somewhat miss the HD haptics from my previous Samsung.

[–] itistime 36 points 3 days ago (9 children)

Avoiding Chinese companies is a factor for me, BUT if the choice is between a Chinese company that wouldn’t comply with a five-eyes data request vs one that would, then I would definitely prefer my data be stolen by a foreign country that doesn’t see me as a sovereign risk

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Its getting kind of silly to be afraid of China when big tech is American.... There really isnt any logical reason at this point. Just emotional, because people are afraid of China.

The entire west is getting absolutely wrecked by American big tech so its funny to read those articles about how scary China is. I guess we prefer the devil we know, but I dont think China has anything even remotely as capable as American spy agencies and big tech.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 3 points 2 days ago

You should avoid both. I avoid the us tech because its on a trajectory towards what china currently implements. China has a ton of offensive security capability and they use it constantly.

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[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 10 points 3 days ago

We have come a long way, to be finally more concerned about our government spying on us than about a foreign nation.

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[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I have had this for 4 months and love it. Previously had Samsung 25 Ultra. Hated it.

Anyone know if the coming Android restrictions will impact support?

[–] fuck_u_spez_in_particular@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ok, I like that attitude, but could you go into more detail? AFAIK hardware wise the samsung will likely be better in every way I think?

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

It wasn't a hardware preference, it was a privacy and control preference. Samsung is a data miner. I absolutely hate being locked out of my own shit. It doesn't belong to you, but you're renting their device and paying with data. I can see the calls home on my monitoring software, and now they have that MS linking SW that you can't remove. I hate Samsung. Also, my S25 Ultra broke twice and I only got about 2 weeks use out of it total. Once, fell out of my pocket on carpet. Last, off coffee table and into floor. Those things are expensive and extremely fragile now.

Fairphone is honestly not a bad switch. It's smaller than a flagship Samsung screen, but as ethically sourced as possible, modular so repairs are easy, open source software, privacy focused, has an ecosystem curated with care, and you can sideload all you want. I think I pay like $25 or $45 a month for unlimited everything with hotspot through the provider that supports it in the US. Also, there is no bloatware. It's the absolute minimum needed for them to be a marketable solution in my opinion. My battery has never died in 4 months. Sometimes it uses less than 10% a day. Samsung was a nightmare constantly draining. I could go on and on.

Edit: Had S22 Ultra for 3 years before trying the dog shit S25. It took a beating, didn't have MS link SW, but that is the device I used while developing better habits like deleting Facebook and beginning degoogling efforts. I never saw Samsung show fragility before 2025. Had several Samsungs before then too.

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[–] obinice@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If it has a MicroSD slot, 3.5mm jack, a removable battery and costs no more than £300, I'm interested! <3

I'd rather it were made in Europe too, but I understand we can't have everything, supply chains being what they are.

P.S Bonus points if it has an IR blaster, I use the one on my current phone quite a lot, surprisingly enough!

[–] zqps@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They can't build them that cheaply. They don't have the same scaling effects as the big brands, and they make an effort for sustainability which is a huge problem with cheap-ass phones.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 20 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (9 children)

the Jolla phone is the way to go

Are there any downsides to this? There has to be, right.

Edit: https://commerce.jolla.com/products/jolla-phone-sept-26

[–] artyom@piefed.social 28 points 3 days ago (42 children)

I mean the downsides are it's Linux. That's not without it's upsides but the downsides are huge.

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