No offense, but at least match the skin tone of the gum forehead.
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Setting aside a tiny fraction of people who -- as Diane points out in the article -- make their living farming outrage, does anyone actually care about a gay character on Star Trek in the year 2026?
Also, I assume that many of the Klingons we've seen on Star Trek over the years were gay. I think he's just the first Klingon which was identified to the audience as gay.
I care. It’s pretty cool.
Same. And Diané absolutely rocks the character. A+ acting.
Agreed. An engaging character that, like Star Trek is oft wont to do, has an interesting arc that challenges the status quo and pushes for understanding.
does anyone actually care about a gay character on Star Trek in the year 2026?
According to Karim's recent AMA here, yes, a lot. I'm old but I have to imagine it's a lot harder being a queer kid in 2026 than it was a decade ago!
Also, I assume that many of the Klingons we’ve seen on Star Trek over the years were gay. I think he’s just the first Klingon which was identified to the audience as gay.
Also yes, the headline makes it clear this is Star Trek's first gay Klingon. Not the Klingon species' first gay.
does anyone actually care about a gay character on Star Trek in the year 2026?
Well, yes - plenty of people care about, and celebrate, representation.
I like how he rocks the skirt, I'm glad SFA finally resolved the skirt thing by having absolute gender chaos.
Worf: I do not see why it is necessary to wear these... ridiculous uniforms.
Riker: Protocol.
Worf: They look like dresses.
Riker: That is an incredibly outmoded and sexist attitude! I'm surprised at you. Besides, you look good in a dress.
That's true in theory, but TNG still had a gender imbalance in who chooses to wear what under normal circumstances. And of course there's Berman's sexism with Troi's clothes. SFA has complete gender equality with regards to clothes.
(But we can still talk about how Darem and Genesis are very similar characters, but act very differently because of gender socialisation. Caleb and Tarima also have lots of gender socialisation going on)
Was there ever an explanation for why Troi was always dressed for jazzercize? She was a regular Starfleet officer, wasn't she?
All we know is that Jellico swooped in and saved the day!
I guess there is sort of an implication in Chain of Command that Troi chose to wear a "non-standard uniform" until Jellico ordered her to change. He says, "I prefer a certain... formality on the bridge. I'd appreciate if you wear a standard uniform." I've just done a TNG rewatch, and I'm pretty sure there is no other in-universe explanation given.
Doylist: Berman was a fatphobic piece of shit who told her to lose weight before she could wear the uniform.
Watsonian: She had a special exemption to wear those clothes because of her culture and job. We actually see the same with Dr Migleemo. It appears to be tradition that counsellors and therapists wear less formal clothing to set their patients at ease.
Doylist: Berman was a fatphobic piece of shit who told her to lose weight before she could wear the uniform.
Don't forget that he was also a misogynist!
Her official role was ship’s councilor, so I’d guess it was to make people feel more at ease and less like they’re talking about their issues to an officer. But mostly - Rick Berman.
This is one of several scenes that I bet the actors never expected to be released in 1080p....
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"A Russian in a USS ship? This cannot be"
"A bald captain? This cannot be"
"A woman captain? This cannot be"
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The same people that said Tilly didn't belong in ST because weight are the same that say people in STA are too good looking. Choose one side, people. Either "no non perfect people" or "no beautiful people", not both.
Wait, people think Tilly is fat??
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She may have actually qualified as obese at times, as there's an actual medical classification.
I don't think that's likely to be the case in that second photo you shared, she does have a heavy build in general, but there have been times since being on ST when she likely did qualify.
IIRC, obese is anything over a specific rage of BMI or BFP, whichever you use. So if a healthy BMI for you is 18-25 and you are 30 then you are obese.
I'm not a pro, so I'm not sure about the hard details, but the point I'm making is that obese isn't a personal opinion of looks too fat. A person doesn't necessarily even need to look it, but they could still qualify.
My SO looks fine at 30, but not much above that. I think they're sitting at 28 currently.
To muddy the waters, being overweight exists somewhere between healthy and obese, and there isn't a clear definition. So there is definitely subjectivity involved. But I think that when someone toes the line of obesity, they can absolutely be classified as overweight.
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I care on how it's done, what the writers do with it. I despise the current writers of Trek and they haven't been able to make a single interesting topic, or do anything interesting with the topics they borrowed.
I hear "gay Klingon" and all I see is another excuse to call everyone who hates NuTrek a bigot.
You know, there's a solid case to be made for what you're saying, but you should know you're not doing a good job of making it.
I think there are people who would agree that the choices seem shallow or pandering (not a claim I'm making, just recognizing others might). But if you don't say clearly why the writing disappoints you, you don't have any justification to be indignant when people assume that it's because you're a bigot.
I'm not accusing you of that. I'm just telling you how your comment reads.
How many comparisons to DS9 and TNG need to be made before people who defend NuTrek finally get it?
I've tried the long ass format of showing before. In great detail. It gets the exact same reaction as what I currently write. So what's the bloody point?
Depends what platform you're on. Facebook? Omfg. They think the whole series is worth abandoning because of the "woke" agenda. Even though ST has been woke since 1960.
Personally, I don't give a fuck. Kind of like in a game. If a character turns out gay, then so be it. I have no emotion towards it. Overall Academy is a fun series. Just finished the Stars episode with The Doctor and Sam. Fantastic episode. Looking forward to cleaning up the first season
A lot of people didn't give a fuck about Uhura being on the bridge, but that is not a reason to NOT include her character on the bridge. Just because you don't consider yourself bigoted does not mean that gay characters should not be celebrated for breaking new ground.
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