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[–] EatsOverTheSink@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Finally. Been working from home for several years now with my 2015 15.5" macbook and secondary monitor with meh colors as my primary workhorse.

I think this is the move for me. If the biggest complaints are lightning connections and a 24" screen then I think I could do a lot worse.

[–] trickedx5@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Jesus Christ. If they had offered a 30 inch

[–] quakeroatmeal7@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Does anyone know if any of these new iMacs have an internal fan?

[–] GetVladimir@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

According to the images posted on the official page, they seem to have an internal fan similar as the M1 models:

https://preview.redd.it/gxdt53pahixb1.jpeg?width=824&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c4ef471ff59703824123c0f61a86ba51ca27c1dc

Source: https://www.apple.com/imac/

[–] Typical_Intention996@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Well this will be my new desktop once we're in the new year. My 2010 iMac had it's first issue this summer which wasn't bad but was my signal to look for a new one soon-ish.

So since 2010 is where I'm coming from I have no idea what Lightning ports even are. Sorry. The base model have two on the back right. Can basic old stuff like my printer and my portable SSD etc. that are all connected to this old current one through USB cables plug into these new(old now) ports and work just fine? I can stop eating through AA batteries for this old magic mouse and keyboard so I'm happy with that despite there being some issue with them still using Lightning to charge. Idk whats going on there. This is all greek to me.

[–] OliBeu@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

It's the same shit like with the Mac book Air... if you want 2 external displays "gO pRo..."

if you want 27 Inch go "JuSt gO PrO..."

[–] mconk@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is there no M3 pro or pro max option for the iMac?!? Only the MacBook? Wtf. The fact that nothing else was changed…no increase in screen brightness. 1080p camera (still?!) lightning keyboard and trackpad. Man wtf

[–] pistes-party@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

That iMac 4.5k screen is wretched, too. I can't believe they didn't update anything except the processor. Gross.

[–] steveo82@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If they did a 27inch pro version I would be all over it, I can’t give up my 5k screen just yet

[–] TrevorAlan@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I just love how they specifically called out the 5K Intel models (and 4K) like, you’ll love the M3 iMac with its 4.5K display. You should upgrade NOW. Get rid of Intel NOW! “Upgrade” to a smaller screen with less pixels NOW. They’re really trying to push the Intel models out. It almost feels like Sonoma might be the last Intel OS.

[–] Unlucky_Internal9686@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I’ve been waiting for 3 years now to get an iMac I’m actually excited about.

I don’t like any of the colors and 8gb for a base model is a joke.

[–] ApertureUnknown@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Nobody wants a 24" iMac. 27" should be the standard.

[–] Spottyjamie@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Explain like im 5 please but why are in general the new M* macs less RAM than the intel ones?

I have 32gig ram and 4gig gpu in my intel 2017 imac yet the most i can have in this new imac is 24gig with no mention of the ram in the gpu

[–] Keith_Sarah@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Where’s the 27”. I’m still using a 8 year old i7 with a screen with image retention.

[–] unknown-one@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

holy sh.... I wanted to upgrade my 2017 iMac, but this is really disappointing...

basic M3 chip, no Max or PRO

basic 8GB RAM and 256GB storage...

still 24"

wow... I need to decide between Studio with M2 PRO or MacBook PRO with M3 PRO chip

[–] jugalator@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah it's annoying they don't do Max/Pro in what is a stationary, large, desktop system because the fucking monitor needs to be so thin. Causes this weird effect where their Mac Mini can be ordered to be more powerful.

But I could bear that myself for my needs. What I just can't is their 8GB, 256GB, 24" thing. I've seen those in person and it's feeling cramped for someone used to even just 27", and that hard drive is so small that even if I'd go external drive for data, I'd be concerned of my OS and apps filling it up over time so much that it becomes awkward (you should always have at least around 10% free).

[–] TestLittle1333@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago
[–] cuentanueva@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They said it had an E N O R M O U S D I S P L A Y.

Sometimes I think they do it on purpose just to fuck with us.

[–] Nikiaf@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

It sounded like they were trying to condition us into accepting that a new 27" or 32" model isn't even on the horizon yet, and we should just buy the tiny little model they have already. It might work well in a doctor's office, but there's no way I could make my primary display a 24" screen.

[–] joey0live@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Dave_Tribbiani@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] SamsungAppleOnePlus@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

My main desktop monitor is 32", I genuinely couldn't imagine an all-in-one smaller than my monitor and I was genuinely surprised to see how small the M1 24" was in person.

It's not small small, 21.5" monitors still are around, but it's still rather small to have an entire computer on with no options for larger sizes.

[–] briacwg@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Nothing new, they had to compare the performance to the M1 because there’s no “scary fast” difference from the M2 nor the M1 actually. To sum up they just released a new color and a chip with 128GB of RAM

[–] irish_guy@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

copy and paste with a new chip, really bad considering it's been 2 years

[–] 7485730086@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

They should have introduced an M2 iMac to at least push prices down.

[–] sethelele@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Macs don't need a redesign every year.

[–] irish_guy@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

It’s been 900+ days

[–] zoom25@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

They really said 27" users...y'all better get used to the 24" or go spend a fuck ton more for Studio Display and another Mac. DID I STUTTER!!!!???

[–] BronzeEast@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yep. Keeping my 24 inch M1 for another 2 years at least. 💪🏼 these underwhelming refreshes make me feel better about the investment in my existing products.

[–] DonutsOfTruth@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Why is your consumerism so strong that you needed to replace the M1 so soon?

M1 is still overkill for a majority of users. You guys aren’t hardcore developers or engineers. M3 obviously isn’t for you, in any aspect.

It’s actually insane that people are upset the “upgrades are underwhelming” as if there’s some law that they NEED to buy something new every single bloody year.

[–] Kyyntaro@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Not even an option for M3 Pro/M3 Max and Lighting accessories, but now for a higher price (in my country)? Excuse me?

[–] TestLittle1333@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] bananalyticalBanana@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I always thought the Mac mini was really cheap. The. You realize the cost goes up $400 if want decent specs and all of the sudden it costs the same as a laptop but you still don’t have a screen, mouse, or keyboard.

[–] WasabiTotal@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

But iMac is 2.3k eur with more than 2 usb ports and 16gb ram / 512gb storage and you STILL have to buy a mouse cause the apple one is terrible. I think thats a bit more than overpriced.

[–] fumblerooskee@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

White bezels still. Pretty underwhelming spec’s.

[–] consultant82@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Another year with 24“.. let’s pray for next year..

[–] Koleckai@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

If I weren’t afraid of a major component in an all-in-one dying, I would consider this.

[–] TorchBeak@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

As someone that has the Studio Displays in the office with a Mac Studio for work, I may get the cheapest version of this for a monitor at home, for my MacBook Pro.

Other than being a cheaper version of the studio display, I don’t see the specs for this being a powerful all in one.

Shame.

[–] Penitent_Exile@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Same ugly design (looks ok from behind, but who cares), same colors, same 8gb starting RAM, same pitiful 256gb starting SSD. NO bigger display version so we would buy their shitty 1500$ display that has years old panel. It's really sad to see Apple turn their once best and iconic Mac product into a clown computer.

[–] CoconutDust@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

NO bigger display version so we would buy their shitty 1500$ display that has years old panel

Also the iMac display itself is years old crap: LCD, 60hz, no HDR. Pathetic product considering the premium pricing.

I say this as someone who’s been waiting years for iMac update and imagining the yellow one. I decided I can’t spend that much for an outdated LCD and I’ll instead get a Mac Mini + OLED monitor.

[–] zomgtehvikings@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You still can’t get it with a Pro or Max chip, why? I get they want you to buy a Studio but some people like all in ones.

[–] pistes-party@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

The thermal throttling on the 7-core M1 iMac was a problem, even with the single fan. I'd bet the reason is that they're too cheap to rework the internals since the iMac wasn't a big hit (M1 model sold poorly, hence the lack of updates)

[–] JeffTL@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I have a fully-loaded M1, the limitations of which I almost never encounter in everyday use and photography post-processing, so this should be one hell of a computer. I'm probably not upgrading until the M7 or so - I don't edit a lot of video or play many games, and have GeForce Now for the latter - but would buy one of these in a heartbeat if I somehow needed a new Mac today.

It's not a revolutionary update, but they usually like to go quite a few years on iMac designs. The faster chip will be nice for those who need it, though the 24GB RAM availability is maybe even a bigger deal for creative and development work. The main thing I'd like to see that isn't there is a 4K camera on the high-end model. I also still miss my Intel iMac's built-in SD card reader, especially on what is almost an optimal computer for photographers, though the dongle works.

[–] Available-Monk-6941@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Was hoping for a larger iMac

A 27-32 inch would be great

[–] masterz13@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

8GB RAM is a joke in 2023 on a $1300 computer, sorry. RAM is dirt cheap.

[–] RVsZBexLC@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

5k iMacs had 3TB Fusion Drives. New ones spec out at 2TB. Won't switch until they offer more internal storage space. I don't want to use an external drive…

[–] slownightsolong88@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Why haven't they done a larger size and new colours. Missed opportunity.

[–] malikto44@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I do think there is a niche for this machine, although it would be nice if it could go up to 32 gigs of RAM.

I'm considering buying one, just because it is a solid desktop machine. It may not do all what a M2 Pro Mac Mini or a Mac Studio can, CPU-wise, but an AIO machine with a good screen (and Apple is excellent at making screens), it is good enough for almost anything, including using Vagrant and Docker for some coding.

I just wish Apple added some minor upgrades, for example:

  • Bumping the NIC to 2.5 Gbps or even 10 gigE, like what is offered with the Mac Mini.

  • Qi/MagSafe charging for the keyboard and mouse, so accessories/charging stands can be made for those.

  • Adding a USB-C port to the power supply, by the Ethernet port.

  • Allowing the Thunderbolt port to work for video in, so the iMac could function as a "dumb" screen for another machine, like a target mode.

However, overall, it isn't a bad machine, and probably the best desktop for people starting off.