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The mastodon and lemmy content I’m seeing feels like 90% of it comes from people who are:

  • ~30 years old or older

  • tech enthusiasts/workers

  • linux users

There’s nothing wrong with that particular demographic or anything, but it doesn’t feel like a win to me if the entire fediverse is just one big monoculture.

I wonder what it is that is keeping more diverse users away? Is picking a server/federation too complicated? Or is it that they don’t see any content that they like?

Thoughts?

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[–] sammeeeeeee@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Just turned 18. Work in tech, but not a Linux user (yet). Non of my friends used Reddit in the first place, so for sure non are on lemmy

[–] Bandit@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

I am none of those things and I didn't think it was too complicated, I just had no idea it existed until I joined r/redditalternatives.

I love the old internet feel. Once I saw the fesiverse 'map' it made perfect sense.

The thing I'm struggling with the most is being able to subscribe to communities on some instances with this account but not all instances. And being able to add some instances to an app (liftoff, tusk) but not all. That's the most frustrating for me right now.

[–] ike@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

"Hey just fyi, I post all this stuff first on my site at noschool.angelfire.com, but i realize people are all here on Xanga now, so I copy it here too. Anyways:

These lemmy users are really making me stress about my age, as if my back pain wasn't enough. I guess I just need to accept it. I have too much going on to be worried about that anyways, i still need to get the rest of those songs downloaded for the mix cd. Kazaa is taking forever to download, but soulseek is ZOOMING at 300kbps, so there's that. Once i get my domain and stuff set up, and my blog system going with Greymatter, let me know if you want to use one of my subdomains for your blog. Anyways i'll be on aim later if anyone is bored."

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[–] wilberfan@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

To be fair, the most diversity I'm seeing in an userbase right now is the one on tiktok. That's definitely a plus, but at what cost? There are trade-offs in every platform.

[–] Mereo@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago
  1. Yes, in my late 30s.
  2. I was a computer scientist, but now I have done a complete 180. But I'm still a nerd at heart.
  3. Yup, I'm a Linux user.

But we have to understand that Lemmy/Kbin are still babies, they've just started. And I really believe that it will continue to grow and get better at accommodating users who are not tech nerds. But it will be an organic process.

The more Reddit gets worse (no more moderation bots, no good moderation tools from Reddit, etc.), the more people will migrate to Lemmy/Kbin. This migration will force the community to adapt and make it easier and easier for users to integrate.

[–] Devgard@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

from my own experience, that's definitely the case for Mastodon, except people are 40 and up.

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[–] gooddaytodayhere@vlemmy.net 9 points 2 years ago

Fit the first one. Not the other two 😂

[–] ErwinLottemann@feddit.de 9 points 2 years ago

I use arch btw

[–] monobot@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Yes, that's why it is so good.

I guess we are the ones remembering how it was 15+ years ago

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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 9 points 2 years ago

I wonder what it is that is keeping more diverse users away?

The more diverse users are the ones that aren't realistically worried about their online privacy and are too used and comfortable with what the big names offer. They're more likely to be the ones that would only move once "everyone they know" moves.

Also, consider that the "advertising", the message and reason for joining the fediverse, It's like [Twitter/Reddit/Instagram] when they were good, minus the corporate meddling and greed and algorithmic shit shoveling!, only really catches the attention of a few types of people.

Average Joe and Jane won't move out, "there's nobody there (that they care about)". Internet famous Joes and Janes won't move either, because they will lose a significant portion of followers.

People are willing to put up with A LOT of shit to avoid moving out of places like Instagram, Twitter, Reddit or Tiktok, since the time spent there makes them feel like it's a place where they belong to.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

That's how reddit used to be before Digg shit the bed.

[–] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Maybe I'm am outlier but I'm 21 and here.

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[–] dragonflyteaparty@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

I mean, I'm 32, my husband is a software dev, and I've been curious about Linux, but not enough to make the move. 😅 So, one of of three.

But I agree with the others. It's probably partly due to the signup. I also think that the techy prime are the ones who understand what happened with Reddit better and are more likely to care.

[–] MrNemobody@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

I thought Lemmy didn't collect info about me 🧐

[–] I_AnoN_I@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

23 year old electrician here. I'm pretty interested in dectralized tech. My first was Bitcoin

[–] chakan2@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Picking a server is complicated... And I still don't get how to get content from other servers into my main feed.

But the other thing is monitization. If you build up a decent filling on TikTock for example, they pay you. My kids friends are all chasing that.

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[–] Crudman@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm normier than the listed demographics and find the Fediverse and it's associated jargon to be inline with 4 dimensional crochet in terms of ease of use

[–] Crudman@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago

To make myself clear I'd rather be confused about lemmy servers than ever, ever use Discord as a wiki

[–] ted_pikul@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

I fit the profile

[–] AlaskaMan@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’m 36 but a tech potato.

I can build a computer and do basic troubleshooting. That’s about it.

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[–] mycroft@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

"You must be new here"

We're always the first adopters.

[–] pfannkuchen_gesicht@lemmy.one 8 points 2 years ago

Hah, I fit the description perfectly. Not too sure how to take that. ☹️

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago

You just described the demographics of the average early tech adopter.

Old enough to understand the importance of privacy and to care about the federation aspect of the fediverse, tech savvy and nerdy enough to not be discouraged by an unfamiliar interface and still developing environment. And apparently we like Linux too.

[–] ZombieZookeeper@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Get off my lawn.

[–] kerr@aussie.zone 8 points 2 years ago

The Reddit migration was probably mostly people who know what an API is so that fits your demographic.

Also, people generally don’t take a stance on something unless it affects them personally. So API, privacy, data collection etc just doesn’t register.

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