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Certainly an interesting group of names here. By my count there's at least 8 guys here who were considered controversial or a part of a scandal or negative news story.

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[–] Similar_Reference_10@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Kevin Williams is monster hall of fame snub no one talks about

[–] Dreadsbo@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Is Leveon Bell HoF or Hall of Very Good?

[–] OkBoomer6919@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

90% of this list won't even sniff the hall.

[–] NewBootGoofin88@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

8 guys? I'm really only seeing 3. Peterson, Antonio Brown and Big Ben. Oh Richie incognito too with the bullying thing

[–] Ok_Caramel1517@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Out of everyone on this list AP, Sherman, Gronk, Weddle, Roethlisberger are probably the only ones for sure getting in.

[–] wichee@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I know graham won't get in, but his career stats are pretty gaudy for a TE. Prime jimmy was a machine for brees

[–] mrubuto22@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He might get in, but not first ballot.

I don't see how Antonio brown gets in the way he ended and still carries on.

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[–] awnawkareninah@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

He's got a ring with Drew at least

[–] ekimdad@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

In theory...the voters are only supposed to look at on field stuff. Anything that happened off-field is not supposed to matter. So all of the post/end career stuff from AB might not be factored in...

[–] Metrostars1029@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Whitworth will get in. It’ll be a bit of a wait for him though. He’ll be one of those guys who gets in after years and years of consideration. Hopefully its him giving the speech in canton.

[–] urkllnmesmalls@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Gronk, Peterson, and Big Ben are the only locks IMO.

[–] SuggestionFancy7584@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I only see three guys who are definitely getting in.

[–] treenorthXne@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Whit, AD and Gronk are the only no-brainer first ballot guys, imho.

[–] jwilcoxwilcox@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Jimmy Graham is on an active roster today. Not sure he’s eligible that year.

[–] DailYxDosE@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Damn I had no idea he still played until right now

[–] OfficeAccomplished52@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He’s back on the saints, caught a TD earlier this year

[–] Packmanjones@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Against GB in GB of course. Because it’s everyone but the Bears turn to shit on GB.

[–] Ingliphail@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Which is 20% of the amount of TDs he scored as a Packer.

[–] BlaqShogunCowboy@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Incognito has no reason to be considered for the HOF. I don’t care if he was serviceable for the Raiders, he was a continuously dirty player. And then he wasted a roster spot and money after his injury. Keep him AHT

[–] zakinthebox@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago
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[–] MankuyRLaffy@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Adventurous-Term8860@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Mr Broken Cranium

[–] milkmandanimal@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (12 children)

The interesting one is MBC, and whether his late-career insanity, walking off the field in the Jets game, running an AFL team into the ground, and being basically garbage in many ways keeps him out. Spoilers; it probably does.

Gronk is the easy first-ballot guy. AP could legitimately be last the first-ballot RB we see maybe ever. Roethlesberger gets in at some point, Richard Sherman probably does thanks to a 3-4 year run where he was one of the best CBs around. Other than that, either no particularly strong feelings or a bunch of guys who won't even get consideration.

[–] abandon_soon@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Richie Incognito should absolutely get in - if the only thing that matters is performance. Guy was an absolute terror on the football field. Apparently a terror off of it too

[–] KaleidoscopeOk19@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

No way he gets to give a speech in Canton. His career probably deserves it, but damn. They’ll find a way to keep him out.

[–] Heistdur@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Uhh Andrew Whitworth was a really fucking good tackle

[–] WokenMrIzdik@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The second he retired it was clear that he was basically the entire Rams offensive line for their Super Bowl run. Dude was so underrated.

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[–] __Scrooge__McDuck__@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Andrew whitworth. Classic example of undervaluing the unsung heros

[–] awnawkareninah@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Gronk is a mega lock, three rings two standing NFL TE records, like what 90 TDs from Brady?

[–] Roscoes_Rashie@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Surely Mack makes it. 3 x AllPro, 7 x ProBowl, Team of the Decade.

[–] rolluaroll@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Weddle the next guy up after the ones you listed. Pretty strong resume.

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[–] TheFencingCoach@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

In my Opinion…

#1st Ballot

  • Gronk

  • Peterson

#Probable/Eventual Hall of Famers (not 1st ballot)

  • Roethlisberger

#Outside Chance But Not a Guarantee by Any Means

  • Sherman

Everyone else has no chance in hell.

[–] ToddPolt@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Weddle will get in eventually. 2010s all decade team and he came out of retirement for that Rams ring

[–] LB3PTMAN@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I’d put Sherm in same tier as Ben and put Whitworth in the bottom tier. Sherman is the only Hall worthy corner entering the ballot in a minute and will be the only one for a bit.

And Whitworth I think eventually gets in. 2 first team all pros, 1 second team, 4 pro bowls and really should’ve been more. 16 years in the league and was the oldest offensive lineman to retire and oldest to win a Super Bowl. Also a Walter Payton man of the year award.

As a Cincinnati fan I do think the Rams run is what really will put him over the top and get him in. Getting a Super Bowl really helps Hall chances.

[–] PurpleBullets@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I would only add Whitworth

[–] FormalWhale@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)
[–] mrubuto22@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] Marijuana_Miler@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And how is Lev Bell rated higher than Big Ben?

[–] The_Moffin_Man@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How is Cam Newton? A few ridiculous years, but overall stats and career is not even close. I think Ben had more years making the playoffs than cam was even in the league.

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[–] Deesmateen@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Not sure but I’m glad they are finally looking at Nickelodeon’s legend, Alex Mack she held her own down

[–] HootSquat@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Does Cam Newton make the HOF?? All time leader in rushing TDs for a QB and had some great seasons

[–] mrubuto22@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago
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[–] Brookie069@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Peterson and Gronk are first ballot. I think Big Ben will only be waiting 3-4 years max. Richard Sherman probably gets in a awhile later. I mean Ronde Barber just got in. Antonio Brown would have been high on peoples lists but he’s too controversial now.

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[–] RandomFlyer643@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

4 Pittsburgh Steelers 😏

[–] bronsonsmoustache@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Incognito? Good lord. I hope not.

[–] HikarW@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I know he was an incredibly talented player but I would be FLOORED if AB was first ballot.

[–] sofresh24@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Jack Doyle being on this random list is the closest he will ever be to being a HOFer

[–] Do_it_for_the_upvote@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

If AB makes it in, I’ll eat cereal with equal parts vodka and milk, and a splash of toothpaste. I think he’s burned too many bridges to be acknowledged in that way, regardless of how dominant he was.

I’m glad that I got to watch his play, though. And, a little guilty about it, that I got to enjoy his crazy saga.

[–] AFWUSA@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Man Gronk should be #2 on this list no question

[–] kohzi@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

This is going to be wildly unpopular, especially on Reddit, but I don’t think that personal/off field issues shouldn’t be taken into account—to an extent—when it comes to the hall of fame.

The hall is for what players did on the field, and there are countless players across all of the major sports that are in their respective halls’ for that exactly, all the while doing worse shit than the players being brought up.

They should be voted in based on their accomplishments on the field. If their personal issues were so bad and caused them to miss a ton of time, they simply wouldn’t be in the hall because the accolades wouldn’t be there. Again, I’m gonna get downvoted and that’s fine. Just my two cents.

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