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[–] Kbin_space_program@kbin.social 195 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Canada's Hundred Days. Aka the last 100 days of WW1.

Functionally, Canada won WW1 for the allies.

Being under 10% of the WW1 force, in that period they tackled defences everyone else thought impregnable and shattered them, like the Hindenburg Line, and in the process paved the way for the allied advance. They also took out a quarter of the German forces in that time.

While they did arguably use proto-blitzkrieg tactics of using lots of machine guns, and then also using vehicles to move troops even quicker while using said machine guns, one of the biggest factors was a prodigious use of chemical weapons.

To the point that in the interwar period, Canada had the largest capacity and stores of chemical weapons. During WW2, said stockpile is one of the reasons Hitler refused to use chemical weapons on the allies.

Edit: And a lot of the rules on fair treatment of POWs and rules on capturing surrendered soldiers also stems of Canadian soldiers behaviours during WW1.

[–] charliespider@lemmy.world 89 points 2 years ago

It was totally justifiable! We had to end the war cuz hockey season was about to start.

[–] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 years ago

In our defense we were jonesing for maple syrup.

[–] wombatula@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Also don't forget the good old Shotgun / Trenchgun, which was seen as an unfair weapon in trench warfare as there was no answer to it in close range and tight corridors.

Germany literally banned the use of them, Germany.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.world 142 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (15 children)

Genocide of our indigenous population mostly. The worst of it ended in 1996 when the last residential school closed. Basically, the Catholic Church under the authorization of the Canadian Federal Government in the 1800s and onwards, abducted children from indigenous communities, took them to boarding schools where they attempted to assimilate them into Eurocentric culture by punishing them for speaking their own language and practicing their own culture. Beatings, sexual abuse, and neglect were commonplace, with many children dying of illness, exposure, or violence. Many children survived the schools and are still alive today to tell us about it. There are also mass graves at several of these schools where children's corpses were dumped and hidden from public view, until ground x-ray technology came around and we found the graves.

Also, random weird fact: women weren't allowed to have bank accounts in Canada until like 1964.

[–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

For me, in the US, Canada is like that child where, if things are quiet, you know they're doing something bad. Because we in the US rarely ever actually hear anything bad about Canada.

[–] wombatula@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Compared to the US which is loudly doing bad things constantly.

[–] lauha@lemmy.one 17 points 2 years ago

So this is really not about what Canada alone did, but what Catholic church and Canada did.

[–] LostWon@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The US called their residential schools "boarding schools," but I don't know if those had the same kind of lasting legacy Canada has, based on the schools they had in the US.

[–] Epicurus0319@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 years ago

Wait… it didn’t close until 1996?

[–] Tekchip@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Canadian Federal Government? So Britain then? /S

[–] wombatula@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What does that have to do with the Geneva conventions?

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[–] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 105 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

The Nazi's got the term, and concept, 'final solution' from a Canadian:

"It is readily acknowledged that Indian children lose their natural resistance to illness by habitating so closely in these schools, and that they die at a much higher rate than in their villages. But this alone does not justify a change in the policy of this Department, which is being geared towards the final solution of our Indian Problem."

"…the system was open to criticism. Insufficient care was exercised in the admission of children to the schools. The well-known predisposition of Indians to tuberculosis resulted in a very large percentage of deaths among the pupils. They were housed in buildings not carefully designed for school purposes, and these buildings became infected and dangerous to the inmates. It is quite within the mark to say that fifty per cent of the children who passed through these schools did not live to benefit from the education which they had received therein."

(This is why there was a fair bit of anger in Canada when Civ 6 added Wilfred Laurier as Canada's leader.

EDIT: I transposed Laurier and MacDonald here, as someone pointed out. The above quotes are from Duncan Campbell Scott, as Deputy Superintendent General of Indian Affairs under MacDonald. Laurier was a key architect of the Residential School system. TLDR; MacDonald started the genocide, Laurier built upon it.)

[–] crackajack@reddthat.com 40 points 2 years ago

The Nazis were inspired by New World colonialist, racists policies. Even Hitler admit he was inspired by the eugenics movement from the US.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’m not disputing any of your points, but Civ 6 has Wilfred Laurier as Canada’s leader

[–] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Thank you for pointing that out, I switched Laurier and MacDonald after quoting MacDonald's Deputy. Cheers!

[–] dx1@lemmy.world 40 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

And There in lies what annoys me with Trudeau. He is the epitome of the morally pompous kid that shows up in the middle of the fight and decides right then who is the bully and the victim without getting the full story of how the fight started and just doesn’t care. Cringefully and willfully naive with an unhealthy side of ego. The worst kind of Canadian.

[–] dx1@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

With citizens, ignorance can be an excuse. With politicians, it's their job to know, and if they're on the wrong side that pretty much means they're complicit.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

With politicians in his position they should have intel. So I’m deeply disturbed if his intel on this is lacking why he’s acting this way when even the most basic news outlet is describing it pretty basic. There’s just no way citizens should be that much more educated than their prime minister. If he does have intel no one else has on the citizen level but to then go off calling them as supporting terrorist as a result is just shameful.

[–] Epicurus0319@sopuli.xyz 23 points 2 years ago

Never ask a woman her age

Never ask a man his salary

Never ask Canada what the “indigenous boarding schools” were for

Never ask Russia, America, Hamas or Israel why they all see the Geneva Convention as a to-do list

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

There were also jewish refugees that were not allowed into Canada. Afair, the bigger arsehole in that story was the UK, that panicked and decided that everyone who fled Germany during some 193x–194x must certainly be a german spy. They forcefully moved people to camps, and also to foreign territories, but it didn't work terribly well with Canada, too.

I though this to be the article I first heard this story from, but it doesn't seem to address that. Here I found some more details, e.g. on how refugees were in prisoner of war camps along with actual nazis.

Edit: But those are likely not related to the question of what Canada did to become example of how Geneva convention should be, so maybe an unnecessary info ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] Epicurus0319@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 years ago

Least racist treatment of Jews in 20th-century Europe

[–] K0W4LSK1@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 years ago

Ignorance aint so bliss anymore lmao

[–] thelazywriter@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 years ago

To add to the list: internment of Hungarian and Ukrainian Canadians in WWI in Canada (some other Eastern Europeans too); internment of Japanese Canadians in WWII in Canada.

[–] beevoid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

The Geneva suggestions…

[–] little_hermit@lemmus.org 5 points 2 years ago

So like non-francophones in Quebec, but without the beatings.

[–] RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Add Canada to the list of countries not to mess with.

[–] wombatula@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I love how most of the comments in this thread completely ignore the context of the post, and instead are "Canada bad!" posts that seem to delight in bringing up every horrible thing the country ever did.

[–] jimbo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yep, not a single mention of anything having to do with the Geneva Conventions.

[–] wombatula@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

No there was one, literally one comment chain.

https://lemm.ee/comment/5632652

The rest is mostly Americans screaming about Canada to make themselves feel better about themselves.

[–] BigBlackCockroach@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (4 children)

The mask is slipping...

https://breachmedia.ca/leaked-report-accuses-canada-of-covering-for-mining-companies-in-war-torn-ethiopia/

The report indicates that new investments by Canadian mining companies in Tigray have increased as the region has been plunged into a major humanitarian crisis from military attacks by the Ethiopian and Eritrean government, whom the United Nations has accused of deliberately “starving Tigrayans.”

​​The U.N has warned that hundreds of thousands of people in Tigray face starvation, as the Ethiopian military—backed by Eritrean troops and militia from Ethiopia’s Amhara region—have raped women and children, committed massacres, burned crops, and blocked aid to the region as they conduct a lop-sided military offensive against the Tigray People

[–] wombatula@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yes this is definitely all of Canada doing this, not a corporation.

Do you say things like this when a company from your home country invests in a troubled region? Is it their government and peoples that you hold at fault? Or is this a problem with capitalism, and you have some motive to disparage Canada as a whole for the actions of a few rich assholes that the average Canadian would gladly have arrested for these actions?

What is your motive here, exactly?

[–] BigBlackCockroach@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Ethiopia Is Committing Genocide Against the Tigrayan People, Say Priests From Region

During this genocide against the state of tigray canda and it's black-face president prospected gold mines in tigray. You canadians supported a genocide to steal tigrayan gold. I wonder if you would still feel the same if it was your mum and your daughter being sexually abused or your cousin or dad being put against a wall and shot.

Canada's Indigenous Genocide Is Ongoing | Truthout

[–] wombatula@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Are you insane? "you canadians" lmao, yes I went to Africa myself and attacked these people, what country are you from exactly? Are you personally responsible for every thing every company of your country ever did?

What. Is. Your. Motive? Stop dodging the question, why are you attempting to defame the entire country of Canada and all its citizens?

edit LMAO judging by your post history about American politics, you're American aren't you, how the fuck do you sit there and judge Canada for the actions of one corporation, your entire countries corporate history is drenched in international blood, what a fucking hypocrite.

[–] BigBlackCockroach@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What is your motive here, exactly?

What is yours?

[–] wombatula@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Don't dodge the question.

[–] BigBlackCockroach@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] TheGIGAcapitalist@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

These are valid criticisms but you approached this conversation in the worst way possible. If you are trying to get people on your side, this aint it dude.

[–] BigBlackCockroach@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
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