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[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 51 points 15 hours ago

Dudes really said this and then turned around and asked for 1.5tn for the military.

[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 15 hours ago

They know. They don’t care

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 12 points 13 hours ago

That is probably the most bruh bruh to ever bruh.

[–] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 4 points 14 hours ago

So close, senator, so close!

[–] Jiral@lemmy.org 3 points 14 hours ago

Why is it that all those autocracies are projecting all the time?

[–] GhostedIC@sh.itjust.works -5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I got curious what Iran's national budget actually looks like and theres not much good information there's a Wikipedia article with no hard numbers.

The cited sources also seem to lack hard numbers. Here's one of them. As a funny aside half of them are apparently dated by an Islamic calendar, so these budgets are from the year 1402. Iran definitely acts like it's still the year 1402.

I didnt bother trying to get a translation of the articles cited since, again, they seem to discuss relative changes but no hard numbers. However, I think this picture gives us an idea what is going on.

We know from the Wikipedia article they raised the retirement age by 10 years, increased government and military pay, instated road tolls, and slashed the road budget at the same time. They raised their military budget by the equivalent of $5B USD (against a GDP of $375B) while raising electricity, natural gas, and water prices by 35% to pay for it.

To do a last bit of comparative math, the USA's total military budget is about 3.33% of GDP, while Iran's 2025 budget raised military spending by about 1.3% of GDP from whatever it was before. And again no hard numbers, but Iran's direct government and military spending is very large, apparently it's a driver of inflation.

So, actually, I think this take is basically correct.

[–] corvi@lemmy.zip 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Idk, seems like if they spent less on military they’d be quite a lot less capable of fighting off the current invasions.

It would be great if we could all universally stop spending that money on military at all, though

[–] GhostedIC@sh.itjust.works -2 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

I knew I'd hear this take. And I don't buy it, in fact I think its very ignorant. No effort post with links this time since its been discussed to death. Iran's current regime has been incredibly belligerent since they overthrow the Shah in 1979 with the help of communists, and seized total power by then killing all of the communists. In the 45 years since they've been shouting "death to america" and after two straight generations of this, only now are at they having the war with america their grandparents wanted. Maybe great great great grandparents since they marry 9 year old girls. That's one of the "rights" they started a civil war for.

Plus they get in lots of smaller conflicts with their neighbors and they killed tens of thousands of civilians last time they had big protests (the equivalent of just pulling out an artillery regiment on BLM).

This is a military government which uses conflicts to stay in power and always needs a conflict.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago

The middle east has a terrorist state doing a war of extermination in Gaza and is not afraid of committing genocides in many other middle east countries called Israel financed by America so it expand it's territory . You expect them to not spend heavily on missiles? I am pretty sure the sanctions on Iran affect the population a lot more than armament spending .

Nobody is going to start a war with the united states because of Nukes so there is zero excuses to invest that much on the army instead of improving people lives with things like universal health care

Also the 30k protesters killed in 2 days is bullshit, only idiots believe it because 15k is the number of jews killed daily in Nazi Germany and it took years of preparation for logisticss and camp building to do so

[–] corvi@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Sure, the Irani regime absolutely deserves anything coming to them. But the US is the one that killed 110+ little girls in an opening strike during an illegal war.

It would be fantastic to eliminate that 50+ year history and beyond that’s gotten us to this point, but you have to admit, cutting their military funding at this point would be suicidal.

And, the point of the OP demonstrating the hypocrisy while America continues to greenlight the largest military budgets in history still stands, even if it’s a smaller overall percentage of GDP.

If the US military kept their targets to military objectives instead of blowing up schools and medical research facilities (though of course the war would still be entirely illegal) I don’t think they wouldn’t be seeing nearly so much opposition. Not to mention the destruction of infrastructure the whole modern world is reliant on.

Edit:

Actually, on reflection I think budget is the wrong word. We’ve seen modern defensive wars fought extremely economically via drones and guerrilla tactics, so maybe that’s not the right take on my end. However, I don’t believe they’d be able to exert the same control over the region without some investment.

Not to mention, all the money invested in those medical science institutes isn’t exactly a great return on investment after today.