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Amazon execs destroyed years of evidence before FTC action, agency says::Amazon allegedly destroyed communications, turned controversial programs on and off, and knowingly raised prices for consumers, according to unsealed documents.

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[–] Skies5394@lemmy.ml 158 points 2 years ago (3 children)

When the fuck are they going to stop treating these companies and executives with kid gloves?

Why do they do these things, shred evidence, lie on the stand, and break almost every white collar law there is? Because there are little to no consequences. And if there are it’s for people in the “out” group. New money.

Crack down on all of them. Shredding evidence should be an admission of guilt. Full stop.

[–] skizzles@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 years ago

When Citizens United gets overturned (i.e. never).

[–] jwagner7813@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But the second you steal money from them, youll be only trial for your life pretty darn quick.

[–] Stanard@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

How optimistic to think you'd make it to trial for your theft.

[–] satan@r.nf 1 points 2 years ago

You think the government is running the country? Have you been living under a rock?

They'll fuck you raw, and you'll say thanks daddy!

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 112 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Split Amazon into retail and web services and then further split them into multiple different companies. Amazon has gotten way too big and stifling competition along the way.

Do the same to Facebook too while we're at it. Fucking hate speech central.

[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

They (technically) already are. I work for Amazon, but I don't get paid by "Amazon". I get paid for the subsidiary I work for.

Splitting is fine, but it's easily dealt with by megacorps. If anything, if the idea is floated, it's probably because they're absolutely fine with it.

If you want to break Amazon apart, do the one thing they hate. Enable their employees to unionize, and empower them to fight the decades-long HR machine that ruins corporate employees lives.

[–] SchizoDenji@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The moment you seperate AWS from the rest, the rest will shut down.

[–] rustyricotta@lemmy.ml 29 points 2 years ago

If Amazon (retail) can't survive on it's own without exploiting workers and all the other crap they do, then we'll be better off without it.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

I'm not just asking to separate AWS. I want AWS to further split into different companies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakup_of_the_Bell_System

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Why would you think that it isn't profitable?

[–] jwagner7813@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Gotta go further and deeper then that too. There are other, larger and more diverse companies that are hiding in plain site behind the more popular business like Google, Amazon, Microsoft, etc...

[–] ChihuahuaOfDoom@lemmy.world 61 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Corporate death penalty should be on the table for stuff like this.

[–] wooki@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] uis@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Didn't expect US to be communist country.

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 52 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Treat the destruction of evidence as proof of guilt and assume the worst case scenario. Ya know, the thing we do with criminals.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We don’t turn destruction of evidence as proof of guilt with criminals, it’s just a separate crime.

[–] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Legally we don't, but generally, as people... I think most of us look at destruction of evidence as at least evidence of guilt.

[–] uis@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It only works with people. Capitalism.

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Yeah, I know that. I didn't say what WILL happen, just what SHOULD

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Since when is that proof of guilt? I can see it being it's own specific crime, but it proves nothing.

[–] db2@sopuli.xyz 36 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They'll fine Amazon a pittance, pocket it, declare victory, and there's nothing we can do about it.

[–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Nothing legal we can do.

[–] DeadWorld@lemm.ee 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The executives need to be charged and Amazon should be put on a tight regulatory leash, if not broken up completely

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago

Legislative to CEO: You get a $5 fine. Now stop doing that or I'll increase it to $10! >:(

[–] hogunner@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

Get money out of politics and these problems go away (because they will be dealt with properly).