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And this is not going to end even if they ban them. Mark those songs as AI and let people filter them out.
But we do need a new music service where every artist has to prove they are the ones making music on live stream and only then they are allowed to upload songs.
Mark those songs as AI and let people filter them out.
Deezer does just that. As per the article:
Songs tagged as AI-generated on Deezer are automatically removed from algorithmic recommendations and not included in editorial playlists. The company announced today that it will no longer store hi-res versions of AI tracks.
They've been working on systems to recognise AI songs for quite some time now.
Fuck me man, I guess I'll just never consume art again.
Even if I tell you that Hans Zimmer is cooking Dune 3 score?
Nah, there's still all the art that was created before GenAI, from the Epic of Gilgamesh to Undertale.
From Deezer’s website, the detection system tags songs that are either fully AI generated rather than produced or mastered with the help of AI tools. You can also appeal if you believe your music was falsely flagged.
I strongly oppose the use of generative AI in art but if it has to be done, it should at least be labeled as AI (ideally by the “creator” themselves).
I wonder how accurate the AI detection tools are though, considering how common are posts where AI detection tools used in schools falsely flagged student assignments.
There was a song I quite liked which had several million views on YouTube which I was surprised to see was flagged as AI generated. No one I showed it to it could hear any obvious signs of AI. The main red flags were that the artists released several albums in a short time span and had no online presence on any platform you would expect to see musicians on (Bandcamp, Discogs, etc) besides YouTube and the streaming ones.
The main red flags were that the artists released several albums in a short time span and had no online presence on any platform you would expect to see musicians on (Bandcamp, Discogs, etc) besides YouTube and the streaming ones.
Honestly, those seem like pretty big red flags since that is how actual bands manage to actually get paid.
I strongly oppose the use of generative AI in art but if it has to be done, it should at least be labeled as AI.
I know I’m mostly preaching to the choir here, but I don’t think there’s any situation in which AI ‘has’ to be used in art.
With good mastering post, you can mostly eliminate the "Suno shimmer", but other than artists using local models, the big ones (Suno, Udio, et al) have digital fingerprinting in the audio file... which is also part of the reason for the "Suno shimmer" sound.
Also, Suno is partnered with WMG since November... their model has license.
I have no idea what Deezer is, and I'm afraid if I ask, somebody is just going to say "DEEZER NUTS!!!" and I will realize it was a big prank.
It is a less shitty alternative to Spotify, while costing less. They are also paying artists considerably more.
The last sentence is a little scary to me, not because it's a bad thing, but because it's probably catnip to scammers/AI generators. I hope they can do a good job of detecting it and keeping those scammers at bay, and not paying them for unaware listeners' mistakes
Not necessarily, if they are more hostile towards that kind of "content" than in this case Spotify, it isn't necessarily more attractive to AI scammers.
As far as I have read they do a lot to prevent that. AI "artists" (shartists?) don't show in the all tab when searching, don't get added to radio mixes, and dont get any payments from Deezer. Their AI generated tagging seems pretty accurate, I just wish it was exposed in the API so other projects could use it
Self-gottem
Music streaming like Spotify or Napster.
Spot deez nuts!
Nutster
I personally started to use Qobuz. Their algorithm isn't great, their target group is more the more distinguished music listener but their library is pretty much as big as any others plus they do have the largest library of hi-res music too and they actually sell also hi-res and CD lossless music if that is of interest to you. Most importantly though, they have a "ban-AI-music" stance on their platform. Soon enough, one will have to rely on platforms like that if one does not want to wade through a sea of AI slop.
The downside is that Qobuz is a bit more expensive than others (while paying the most to artists however, as far as I know).
I switched to Qobuz recently and started to actual discover new music again after years on Spotify.
And here I am struggling and fighting with my distributor ever time I upload a new instrumental album because they can’t confirm that it’s all original work.
i'm sure most people using streaming platforms don't care about it. a lot of people don't even know what their favorite genre is, they just play whatever is popular or getting into their feed.
I quit Spotify when I found that half of the music on random jazz playlists I'd listen to were all AI. My whole family told me I was full of shit and they've never encountered that haha. Caused a lot of drama since we have a family plan.
This (moreso for youtube music, since Deezer seems to not have a lot of East Asian labels signed) is a huge part of why I've been building out a selfhosted Navidrome.
Obviously there is the old school way of getting music. But Bandcamp is WAY more beneficial to the artists and ebay and Half Price Books are also awesome for grabbing music.
And combine all that with musicbrainz for scrobbling and discoverability of new bands.
Yikes
