If there's a vehicle manufacturer I can trust to make a reliable battery with that kind of performance, it's Toyota... Buuuuuuuuuuuut, I'll believe it when I see it.
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Riiiiight.
Toyota is so far behind in the EV game that they are throwing out BS claims to give people pause who might be considering a purchase from all the other companies viable EVs right now. This is like 15 and 20 years ago when car makers were saying that their hydrogen cars were just a few years ago... which of course never materialized, but they used it as publicity stunts.
Typical tabloid battery rubbish..
745 miles, assume 5 miles/kwh which is not unreasonable. That's a 3.7Mwh battery (which my back of the envelope calcs would weight about 5 tonnes).
Charge that in 10 minutes you'd have to feed it from a 22Mw charger. So the output of a decent size offshore wind turbine. Per charger.
I haven't got a clue how bloody heavy the connector would have to be.. it wouldn't be CCS, I can tell you that..
I find it funny how the media has just regurgitated their bullshit with essentially zero fact checking. This stuff is just outside the understanding of most people that they might not question it. To them this is Toyota making these claims. The company that made the '95 Camry which has been passed around to various family members and rolled up 300k miles. They trust Toyota. Maybe a little too much.
So this battery is supposed to be: Half the weight AND half the volume AND half the price AND solid state!
And we are supposed to believe they can have that by 2025?
To charge for 745 miles, would require at least 150 kWh battery, meaning they'd have to charge at 1 MWh. AFAIK the most powerful chargers available today are about 750 kWh. So 1 MWh is possible. But very doubtful for a new solid state battery weighing and costing half of current batteries.
it sounds like they might be producing them for cars to be out in 2027
but... they're also working on making the manufactoring "simplified" and cheaper than lithium-ion batteries
i dont assume that'll be done by '27
so i expect... costs to be high for the first year or two, and possibly only available in a few (low volume) car models
but we'll see.
i hope they do surprise us greatly. but i have been sceptical of toyota regarding electric... which is weird coz they were among the first to make hybrids
Reading the article again, it merely states Toyota expect to have solid state battery by 2017, which is quite underwhelming, considering BYD already sell cars with solid state batteries.