I think Ben gets in. I think Matty Ice does not. I am genuinely not sure about Rivers.
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It’s Super Bowl wins, it’s as simple as that. Ben gets in bc he won and the others didn’t. It’s the difference of Goff vs Stafford on the rams. Stafford is a hall of fame QB, Goff as of now is not. Barring injuries, Goff is setup to have a similar career to Ryan and Rivers.
I think rivers gets in but it will take a bit. Matt Ryan is a no. I don’t feel like Matt Ryan should be in. He was decent. Big Ben will only get in due to his rings and because he played for the Steelers.
Where is Stafford ranked?
Ben is a lock. Matt Ryan will take some time but I feel like he’ll make it eventually. That MVP greatly helps push him over the line, I feel like
Brady - yes
Rodgers - yes
Brees - yes
Roethlisberger - yes
Manning #3 - yes
Rivers - 50/50, but probably eventually yes
Ryan - no
Mcnabb - no
Romo - no
Smith - no
Wilson - 50/50, but probably eventually yes
Luck - no
Cousins - no
Stafford - unlikely but plausible
I feel like the line has to be Stafford
Ryan MIGHT get in, because of the MVP, Ben almost certainly will unless they hold the rape against him (they should), Rivers shouldn't because of lack of accolades or playoff success.
I feel like Matt Ryan is a good litmus test for future HOF potential for QBs.
Above -> gets in eventually Below/equal -> probability doesn’t get in
Ben will get in, and should. Rivers might. Ryan, might not. Ryan had his one year that was better than any year Ben and Phil had, but I don’t think he was a better QB than either of them for their careers.
HOF is about sustained success over long periods of time imo.
Big Ben checks that box. Matt Ryan had a very solid chunk of time where he was successful, but never got over the SB hump and never regained form after that.
Philip Rivers is probably not getting in due to all the average level teams he played on.
Putting Ben with the likes of a dude who never won a Super Bowl is kind of...shit almost insulting.
Dude went to 3 and won 2 Super Bowls.
I think he'd be the only multi Super Bowl winning qb to NOT make it if he didn't?
Ben yes. Ryan and Rivers no.
Where will the Pro Football Hall of Fame draw the line with QBs?
When the hall stops making money, people will pay to see eli inducted (or the very least travel to watch it)
The real question is how many people will drive 10 hours for it
A known rapist should not be inducted, regardless of stats or accomplishments. Come the fuck on NFL, please stop rewarding sexual predators.
Ben gets in due to the rings. Rivers and Ryan do not. Rivers is basically Tony Romo. Ryan isn’t much higher.
My personal eye test is that only Big Ben belongs among those 3.
Flacco = No
Ben does super bowls speak loud imo. Matt Ryan needs a sub-par inductee class to get I feel like and rivers doesn’t deserve it. You can’t be in the hall of fame if you aren’t even a conference champion…
Ben shouldn’t make it in
Are we sure about Brady?
Ben will probably get in at some point (idk how long it'll take tho)
Ryan could get in after a long wait. I don't see rivers ever making it
If it was up to me, None of these guys should make it. No SBs for Ryan and Rivers, and the Steelers have played the ugliest football in the league the past 20 years. Out of the three I like Rivers the most but he has the lowest chance of getting in. Realistically, Ryan is 50/50 and Big Ben is definitely getting in with the on-paper results
Ben gets in for sure.
They all should get in. The quarterbacks surrounding them are all HOF. Also with some quarterbacks that don’t belong, but are in, such as Namath or Kelly, only heighten the reason for why those 3 should be in.
I think Rivers is the cutoff. I think he’s as good as you can be without making the HoF. Or at least he should be.
Being honest none of them should get in...neither 3 was ever the best qb
Big Ben gets in. Ryan and Rivers don't. Neither won a Superbowl. Plus they combined for ZERO rape accusations.
Big Ben was getting in regardless, so that shouldn’t even be a discussion. Matt Ryan on the other hand is a different story IMO 🤷🏽♂️
Never considered Ryan for HOF. Maybe I'm missing something. Long career which pads stats and a good 1st half in a super bowl isn't HOF worthy. I'm an Eli fan and his SB performance is all time good, but not enough for HOF. Ben could make it.
I know I'm a homer, but Ben seems like a sure fire lock to me. Two SB wins, a third appearance. The only QB in the group above with that many is Brady.
I think Rivers gets in before Matt Ryan. Rivers played 2 more seasons, they have similar yardage, Rivers has the edge in touchdowns, and Rivers has a 0.558 record where Ryan has 0.532.
I know Ryan has a Super Bowl appearance where Rivers does not, but that didn't end all too well for Ryan. Reads like a black smudge.
That said, I wouldn't be surprised to see Ryan and Rivers both get in. Just may take a while.
Eli would be surprising...
Ben’s almost certainly gonna make it in
Honestly if the QBs from right now don’t step it up it’ll be harder to argue Rivers and Ryan don’t deserve to be in. When the longest tenured QB in the league has only been with his teams for 8 years and the few older QBs that have stuck around are starting to break down in their mid-30s someone like Rivers being consistently very good or great until he was nearly 40 is going to look more impressive.
Like imagine if in 2033 Joe Burrow was still the Bengals QB and was still Pro Bowler.
Burrow right now is better than Rivers was at any point in his career. He’s universally agreed to be the second best in the league, behind only the (maybe) best player in the history of the sport
Eli is a lock too. Shouldn’t be. But he is.
Big Ben is the only 1 of those 3 I'd put in
Not even a hard question tbh. Ben makes it, the other 2 don't.
Phil Rivers is the Kerry Collins of 60,000 yard passers
The real question is how long do we have to wait for the BOAT Blake Bortles to get his bust in Canton.
Big Ben yes... Ryan and Rivers... not a chance.
It's the "Hall of FAME," not the "Hall of BETTER THAN AVERAGE."
The real question is, does Eli get in??
Big Ben shouldn't be in the hall of fame simply bc he's a rapist.
Just give them participation plaques.
I think Ryan and Rivers are probably the new line.
I could see that SB loss and MVP pushing Ryan in and keeping Rivers out.
But I think yards and TDs are going to be a watered down state for QBs.
I think the stats outlook will shift to high leverage stats, awards, and titles.