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[–] Whatwhyreally@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Still unclear what I want this for.

[–] zeek215@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's your own personal assistant that will (eventually) handle basically any and all tasks/requests you do with devices today (alarms, reminders, directions, messages, emails, fact questions, general questions, etc.).

[–] DontBanMeBro988@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Damn, never heard that one before.

[–] tkukoc@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Agreed, I have yet to see one thing AI will do for me that I can't already do myself.

[–] paucus62@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

to make it do it for you, and therefore save a lot of time. I can write paragraphs, sure, but i can have an AI write a 80% passable paragraph in less than 5 seconds, while it would have taken me much more than that.

[–] GhostGhazi@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Look harder

[–] Portatort@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

That’s the point… it does things for you so you don’t have to do them yourself.

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[–] Startech303@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I'd be happy with just Siri being a bit better.

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[–] WhiteyMcBrown@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Perfect timing for some serious updates to iWork and iLife apps.

Pages AI to help you write. Generative artwork to go into Keynote slides. or to help with a GarageBand song.

It's been far too long since Software was what got people excited to buy Macs.

[–] ranbutann@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (10 children)

Does anyone even use iWork suite these days? Basically everyone I know uses Office or even Google Docs.

[–] WCSDBG_4332@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Still use Pages & Numbers. Doesn't compare to MS Office though.

[–] No_Island963@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I use it all the time

[–] MyHobbyIsMagnets@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I still use Pages every day. Habit I guess

[–] darkknight32@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Keynote is all I really use. I’ll use Figma one in awhile for a presentation (used to do it all in indesign). But keynote isn’t that bad. A ton of nuances to it but once you work with them, it clicks.

But google docs over pages for sure. Not even a competition imo.

[–] WhiteyMcBrown@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I use it too but I might use it more if Apple looked like they cared to update them. They used to make a big deal about their big software features. I don't really know what's been done since iWork '09. (as in "the year 2009"). Going web only in some Google Docs copy or adding AI tools might be worth talking about.

[–] Shrinks99@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Hey the last update brought SVG support.

I swear it has a team of 2 people responsible for it or something. Pages and Keynote (Numbers is fine but will never be Excel for better or worse) are really great software and I wish they had more capital allocated to them.

[–] ElectroByte15@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Use it every day. Office makes me pull my few remaining hairs out. For generic use, iWork beats all the others in overall experience.

[–] NoRun1294@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I use it for home and personal stuff all the time.

[–] pleachchapel@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I think Pages is superior to Word for pure design & stock font options.

I don't know who tf is using Numbers instead of Excel though.

[–] Simply_Epic@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I used them all throughout college. Office is just too unintuitive and Google Docs is missing too many basic formatting features. The iWork apps do everything I need them to do and it’s intuitive to use.

[–] _amethyst@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I still use Pages a lot of the time. It works on all of my devices and it has a few Microsoft Word-level features that Google Docs is missing. Mail Merge is a notable one for me.

It’s not super important for most people but if you need it it’s much easier to use Pages with its built-in Mail Merge than it is to fuck around with weird privacy-invasive third-party Google Docs addons.

[–] NecroCannon@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I don’t see Apple going too deep into generative work considering the current murky legalities so I wonder how they’re going to do it in their Apple way.

[–] igkeit@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The new features should improve how both Siri and the Messages app can field questions and auto-complete sentences, mirroring recent changes to competing services.

Yeah right "improve Siri" never heard that one before

[–] -metal-555@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

The difference is now LLM style text generation is a huge leap in what previous voice assistants could do.

It's not exactly just trying the same method once more.

[–] Portatort@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Siri has been improving since its first introduction

Not as fast as we might like but pretty silly to say it’s not been improved ever

[–] 7-methyltheophylline@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Apple hardware = god tier

Apple software = gender reveal party gone wrong

[–] esp211@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

This is exactly the type of posts that make Reddit an absolute cesspool

[–] Cappy2020@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I found it quite funny personally.

People who post just continuously whining about every little thing though is what makes Reddit awful for me.

[–] BassCreative@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

See and I thought this was the best comment I’ve read in a while

[–] Portatort@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh come on. Apples hard ware is slightly nicer than the competition but its software is far far above anything else out there.

They’re obviously behind on personal assistants and AI but I’d still rather spend time on iOS than android.

[–] ScaryBluejay87@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

One of the main draws for me is the fact that the same company maker the software and hardware, and that they optimise them for each other.

[–] shadowstripes@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I thought most people use Mac OS and iOS for that software though? Even back when it could natively run Windows the vast majority of Mac owners still preferred to use Mac OS.

[–] ScaryBluejay87@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

There’s a difference between the OS and the underlying structure/how it operates, and the software you use under that OS.

You can run MacOS but use Excel over Pages, or Firefox over Safari, still a different experience than using the same software under Windows.

[–] depressedsports@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Never forget the gender reveal that turned into the dude accidentally making a pipe bomb

[–] deagesntwizzles@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] RollaCoastinPoopah@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

It’s that damn generative AI! It’s so hot right now!

[–] nikenick28@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

If it allows me to create reminders right from messages that would be awesome

[–] cjboffoli@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

"Apple was caught flat-footed when ChatGPT and other AI tools took the technology industry by storm.."

This is not only editorializing but fundamentally false. Just more of the standard anti-Apple, negative clickbait bullshit from Bloomberg.

[–] F1amy@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The most Apple-way I see it being implemented is using local processing, which requires non existing (yet) technology. Mobile chips aren't capable enough to do serious AI work, if latest Google Pixel AI-features is any indication (they are using cloud compute).

[–] MaverickJester25@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Mobile chips aren't capable enough to do serious AI work

The Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 has already shown to be capable of this.

[–] VariantComputers@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Well I don't know about phone chips but using the metal api the cores in the m1 and up chips are fast enough to run 7B models nearly as fast as gpt4 runs.

[–] tino768@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As long as whatever they come up with doesn't require a new chip/chip version and thus a phone upgrade.

[–] frownGuy12@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If it’s could based it won’t. If it’s a local model then I imagine you’ll need a new chip and much more RAM.

[–] No_Island963@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I don’t think a new chip will be necessary, even if Apple might say something else. The potential of the currently installed Neural Engines in the iPhone has not been exhausted to this day.

For example, most tasks that require the Neural Engine still run smoothly on the iPhone XS/11

[–] Ecto_88@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

How about they get Siri working first? GAI is a fad.

[–] rudibowie@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

To all its "new" devices, I'll bet. Released after this AI is ushered in.

[–] Flipmode0052@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Haha you mean apples hope that Siri naturally evolves into AI? Since Apple obviously is completely and utterly incapable of improving Siri further then removing the “Hey” from “Hey Siri” in 10 yrs?

[–] tiagojpg@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Man, I just need my keyboard to remember that word I’ve typed 3000 times and not correct it to something totally different

[–] Positively4thSt@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

They only just fixed ducking :-(

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