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The stronger you are, the weaker the rest of your team is.

I feel like Bill Belichick made a system that can't change. The cogs are not conducive to replacement and the system itself to any form of modification. Like Josh McDaniel is a garbage HC and there's kind of room to suggest a bad person, but I wonder if it's a coincidence that Mac Jones only even slightly good year (and the last year the offense was good in general) was when he was OC.

Because he cheats…

It’s not like his goal was to reach them how to be a head coach.

You can be good at your role without being fit to be a head coach. Sure, a lot of transferable skills between an OC or DC and a head coach. Some roles held by an OC in one team will be done by a head coach at another.

But just because they worked under Bill Belichick does not mean they should be a good head coach. If anything, from what we know about Bill Belichick, it might make more sense for them to not be. Regardless, I don’t get the point of this take other than it being a fun fAct

Cuz he’s not a great coach, he’s average. His record without Brady is sub .500. It’s somewhere around 80-90.

Bill looks for competent and loyal followers who will implement and maintain his way of doing things. Competent and loyal followers are rarely capable leaders.

There’s also the fact that the skills required to be a good coordinator are entirely different from those needed to be a good head coach, but that’s a more general football issue and not at all specific to Bill.

Because none of the Tree ARE Belichik.

Cause he isn’t good

Because it’s not a tree, it’s a cactus

It's kind of hard to be successful without cheating.

Because he's just not that good of a coach, he's a phony

Because nobody else had TB12 making them look better than they were?

Because they were all products of Brady's success and not actually good coaches (they are mediocre coaches that also got elevated by Brady's play).

Because no one is Bill Belichick, no one is Brady, and the Pats org was bigger that any one man towards the end. It was an institution

Tom fuckin Brady made a lot of coaches a lot of money that they didn’t earn.

Because Bill Belichick is an over-rated HC who has consistently whiffed on draft picks and has only been successful with TB under center. He's a phenomenal defensive guru but he wouldn't have won a superbowl at all if he hadn't hit the QB lottery with TB12.

Short answer: McDaniels was OC to the GOAT and Patricia was DC to a defensive coach

They were both fraudulent assholes

cuz they don't have Brady

Because it wasn't Tom Brady's job to coach them.

Because most tried to replicate the “Patriots Way” without Tom Brady. It didn’t work for them, like it doesn’t work for BB.

Playing not to lose/conservative, trying to add as many JAGs as possible that are your type of player, and trying to be an emotionless spartan douche only works when the whole undertaking is supported by the players.

Having an unbelievable QB that will cover up pretty much all your mistakes on offense, give time to your defense, and take all your BS and belittling to set the tone is rare.

All all the things Brady did for BB, at the end, BB didn’t even want to give him just a two-year guaranteed contract. And the last few years, every contract was incentive-based.

All the BB apologists can’t be mad if Kraft finally treats BB the same way he treated most Patriots legends, including the greatest football player of all time:

• Teddy
• Law
• Wilfork
• Mankins
• Gronk
• Wes
• Moss
• Brady

Not to me ruin players like: Ninko, Jamie Collins, etc.

Hell, we almost lost Hightower and DMac because of his BS…

Because it’s the Bill Belichik won with Brady coaching tree. They don’t have Brady.

What goes up must come back down

Because much like Bill Belichick now, they don't have Tom Brady.

Because he is way overrated because he had Brady.

Tom Brady wasn’t cloned as part of the package

Because Tom Brady

Because they can’t take Tom Brady with them

Cuz Flores is an arrogant know it all prick......alledgedly

The limbs on this tree don’t have Tom Brady.

The patriots success was never because of Belichick. It was all due to Tom Brady. Before Brady, Belichick never did anything significant as a head coach. Since Belichick wasn’t that good it stands to reason his assists weren’t much to speak of as well.

I think BB has a unique adaptation technique/style that's hard to teach. This is coming from a Falcons fan, we shall never forget that day.

Because none of them can recreate his defense. The closest you have to it is Vrabel which makes sense because as a former linebacker he should be familiar with most of the defensive schemes.

He doesn't let them know the secret of his success.

I'm guessing because just like his players, he finds the best scheme fits and knows how to get the most out of his players and coaches in the past. Having josh McDaniels for almost all of those Brady years meant that he wasn't constantly losing OCs to HC jobs. Coaching is all about finding the right ppl to mesh with the right players you wanna have around your program. I think he finds good coordinators, but when they try to make the jump to HC it never works. Everyone knows about the Brian Flores Miami situation, but he's now gone to the Vikings as a DC and has turned around their defense. I think Bill creates a lot of positive bias towards people that work for him, And like a lot of players, he does a good job at playing to strengths and hiding weaknesses

Because Bill took his defense and team culture very serious and Brady took the offense and culture very serious. When you have the QB and HC on same page and both produce, people fall in line or fall by the wayside. And a lot of the guys he made who weren’t successful in other places knew if they followed, that was there chance.

McDaniels and Patricia never had that, PLUS, McDaniels just tried to be Bill but everyone sees through his veil

While y'all fight among yourselves Brady is on his yacht drinking wine, banging chicks and enjoying how every Patriots loss validates his career

The Patriots success wasn’t Bill Belichick, it was Tom Brady. Look at Bill without Tom both pre and post. Trash. Look at Tom without Bill. A Super Bowl in his first season on a new team without a pre-season during Covid. What’s wrong with the coaching tree, they don’t have Tom Brady on their new teams either.

Reminds me of the Brian Billick coaching tree. I guess slightly more successful since Marvin Lewis lasted forever in Cincinnati.

Because he’s nothing special - just a cheat.

Because it was always Brady.

Take out Bill's record with Brady, and he's basically Matt Patricia.

Bellichek himself is an all time fraud. Brady carried this guys legacy

How many coaching trees have really been all that great?

The only coaching tree that really worked was Bill Walsh.

It was never bill. It was Tom. It's beyond clear now.

Because none of them chumps had Brady ☠️

He’s extremely smart and also an asshole. His assistants are not particularly smart so the only part they can replicate is being an asshole.

Because there is only one Tom Brady

The people who leave don’t get Tom Brady