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[–] PagingDoctorLove@lemmy.world 47 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Something I'd like to share:

I've been periodically checking reddit in my Browser to see what's going on. I commented last week about noticing a sharp decrease in posts on "my" front page. Since then I've observed a few more interesting things.

  1. Late last week, I noticed that multiple subreddits (BORU and PICS in particular) had like 2-4 posts when sorted by "top, 24 hours." It wasn't a case of having to click "next" (I really miss rifs endless scrolling feature...) to navigate to a second page of posts; there was no 2nd page. That was it.

  2. I also noticed that on the mobile website, ads are designed to look nearly identical to posts (imo it was more obvious that they were ads on rif), and most of the time the website would only have 1 or 2 posts before one of these fake ad posts, so your user experience is immediately impacted.

  3. The ads don't seem to be as targeted as they used to be. I used to get ads that seemed to be geared toward me, my searches, and interests. Creepy, but I found it way less annoying than the alternative. Which is apparently a lot of "He Gets Us" and ads for complicated electronics or unnecessary services. Like a mobile vet clinic that isn't even available in my area, lol.

  4. The bot posts are getting obvious and WEIRD. I took screenshots last weekend because just about every other post had a robotic, overly formal, and/or downright confusing title. Here are some examples:


56.3k, front page: "A brain tumour changed her life Her nerves are badly damaged! But today she opened a car door.....walked.....opened a gym door.....walked and sat down ..BY HERSELF what a lady"

[Quotation marks, format, and ellipses are original]


40.5k, front page: The trapped dog doesn't wait a bit to hug the rescuer after being freed..

Same weird ellipses, and the way it's phrased is like a "correct the mistakes" worksheet for 2nd graders.


I think Reddit is in the "find out" stage of their fucking around, even if it's a quiet or subtle change to the casual observer.

I also tried going to ModCoord [I'm not a mod it just felt like a good place to find updates] and, on my end, it looks like almost everything has been deleted. The same day I took screenshots, /r/PICS posted a public response to reddit's threats, which weren't even acknowledged on modcoord. The most recent post I could see was something from GallowBoob? It was really odd.

Is the website being glitchy? Probably. That is, after all, part of the root of this problem. But if anything, I'd say it's pretty clear that the content has decreased in both quality and depth in the last 10 days. Even if a lot of users are still signing in, I don't think they're posting, commenting, or voting as much as they used to. That may be a reflection of the quality of posts, or of users displeasure at the situation, but regardless of where it came from, at least it's something.

[–] Tzayad@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

One sub I'm quite a lurker on has 6 million subscribers, and top posts for the day had like 1.5k upvotes, and there was a massive shortage of new/interesting posts.

The change in reddit over the last few weeks has been dramatic.

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[–] comcreator@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Making reddit go back to their own ways is not victory. We need to get redditors onto Lemmy. It is up to us to use Lemmy and spread its awareness to redditors.

[–] pelotron@midwest.social 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'll do my part to welcome anyone who joins here, but there are plenty of knuckleheads on reddit who will give you shit for having any kind of principles that take a long term view or make life anything other than blissfully convenient. I have no motivation to try to convince those people.

[–] voluble@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Out of curiosity, what do you mean by this? What sort of views did you get shit for?

[–] Call_Me_Maple@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

The Witcher subreddit mods put up a poll about whether or not they should extend their protest (Every post from the start of the protest had been about The Hexer an old poor adaptation of the witcher). I commented that I supported the continued protests, because charging exorbitant prices is unfair to moderators that do what they do for free, and unfair to the 3rd party app developers who gain no income from developing their apps. Someone came at me with this argument;

buddy i work 48 hours a fucking week i’m just trying to enjoy and discuss things about fandoms i enjoy while i’m taking a shit. i could care less about these protests, all it’s doing is fucking up my potty time

Like, from a self-centered point of view, how dense do you have to be to not understand that moderators not having access to their tools is going to "fuck up your potty time".

well I called him;

Self centered, selfish and uncaring.

I mean seriously, have some common decency to fight for the platform you browse daily. I just don't get some people, really. Well regardless, Lemmy has been a much better place, though I can't imagine that'll last forever.

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Like, from a self-centered point of view, how dense do you have to be to not understand that moderators not having access to their tools is going to “fuck up your potty time”.

this is the summary of 60% of reddit now

pissy white boys mad that their entertainment driven by free labor was interrupted

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[–] Samihazah@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Every post from the start of the protest had been about The Hexer an old poor adaptation of the witcher

The quality was shite, but at least it respected the source material.

Like, from a self-centered point of view, how dense do you have to be to not understand that moderators not having access to their tools is going to "fuck up your potty time".

A friend of mine said that his opinion is, that the end user is the one being shat on by those protests. Pal, the end user is being shat on, that's true, but that's why the protests started. According to him, the official app is not that add ridden and it's no big deal. That was June 30 afternoon. He won't be able to compare those apps now and I do hope, when whatever lovely communities he missed so much during the protests go down in quality under new moderation, I can say "I told you so".

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[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Someone said to me (paraphrasing), “you aren’t going to leave. I’m going to keep an eye on your account to see. You’re all making a big deal out of nothing. The official app is fine and you’re just being crybabies. “Waaa my app!” You aren’t going anywhere and I’ll call you out if I see you comment or post.”

I haven’t commented or posted since Apollo shut down and I don’t intend to.

[–] voluble@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Ahh, the internet blooms with summer children in July.

[–] pelotron@midwest.social 3 points 2 years ago

Caring about how large internet companies or corporations in general treat their users, and putting my money where my mouth is when I disagree with them. To some people, this is a reason to rethink your life.

[–] zeroxxx@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I wrote about migrating to Lemmy and got banned from some subreddit...

[–] comcreator@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Not surprised, i messaged many moderators about a community in lemmy and many seem to care less. However I got a few moderators over from reddit onto lemmy.

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[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 16 points 2 years ago (4 children)

R/ videos got clever, I love it. Thier new rule is

Only text posts describing videos are permitted, and must describe a video in detail. Video links are permitted in the comments only.

That must be interesting haha

[–] gamers_Mate@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

When a subreddit accidentally does more to help blind redditors than Spez does.

[–] Chickens@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Also each post MUST include profanity. Well done, r/videos.

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[–] GonzoVeritas@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

I'm enjoying Lemmy more and more each day. From the moment I loaded Wefwef, I knew I had a new home. It's not perfect, but it was reminiscent enough of Apollo for me to know that Lemmy is a contender. I still mainly use desktop access, but having a mobile app I can pull up and scroll made me feel much better about leaving Reddit.

[–] kratoz29@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (11 children)

I was an Apollo user when I had an iPhone, then moved to Android and was a Boost user to finally move to Sync, now all of these 3 are dead, do you really think I'd want to keep being active on that "community"?

These devs deserved better, luckily both Android devs moved here, and they will receive the support of their followers, and Apollo already has numerous spiritual successors, Wefwef/Voyager being an awesome PWA and some iOS apps like Memmy and Artemis!

[–] pyromaster55@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sync for lemmy should be up in a few weeks time. I'm pretty stoked about it.

[–] LoyalOrange503@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Mostly excited for Boost for lemmy myself, having a big dev putting that up will be of great help.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I really want Infinity for Lemmy

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[–] tsz@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (8 children)

I genuinely don't care. Lemmy has completely replaced reddit for me. I was a hardcore RIF user for over ten years. Connect is amazing and content had been like 90% there but with half the bullshit filler that reddit had. I honestly love it. Fuck protesting, just drop them hoes.

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[–] DrAnthony@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (19 children)

I cut ties today. I had been a mod in a sub of over 3 million users for years. All reasonable folk on the mod team were gone and a huge fight broke out because I suggested that we "Try to be decent to each other" as if it was the most offensive statement they had ever heard. I have zero regrets leaving that kind of toxicity behind.

[–] AdmiralShat@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This is the real result. Yeah subs will open back up, but the mods who are left are just weird keyboard warriors who think being a mod is like being a cop (I mean obviously this is a generalization, but it's mostly true) The quality of individual subs is going to suffer and therefore the overall user experience will suffer.

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[–] captain150@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (9 children)

New here, I miss using RIF but Connect seems pretty good.

[–] kratoz29@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Connect is the most usable of the bunch, well, I might need to check Liftoff further, but I am not a fan of its interface.

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[–] ultralight@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

These kinds of posts remind me exactly of my first few days on reddit post Digg Great Migration. There was a great multipage webcomic made then too.

[–] kratoz29@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So you have lived two apocalypses? I bet this is a good story for your descendants!

[–] Redditiscancer789@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

God damn us internet vets have seen the rise and fall of many a digital empire. Refugees moving from 1 shell to the next,

IRC/AIM->Skype/vent/mumble->discord/signal/telegram,

netscape->IE->Firefox/Chrome/Chromium,

message boards/use groups->digg/reddit->Lemmy,

Search engines like ask jeeves->Google/yahoo->google.

Napster->kazaa/limewire->torrents/magnet links->Sonarr/Streaming Sites

I could go on but yeah it was insane.

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[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The decisions that Reddit made allowed Lemmy and Kbin to grow faster.

[–] reeen@aussie.zone 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've been wanting to cut down on social media/Reddit for ages. Reddit making it a huge inconvenience to look at the site on mobile has been great for me honestly

[–] AdmiralShat@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lemmy is a god send for me. It doesn't have endless content, so after a few minutes and a few comments, I just close it.

I genuinely enjoy NOT having access to the endless dopamine

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[–] seacocker@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (9 children)

I think it's all had a bigger impact on Lemmy than it has had on Reddit. The lasting impact might be that Reddit now has viable competition for the first time since Digg, which is a good thing.

[–] a_name_needs_no_name@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah. They do not realize that despite “their traffic being back to normal” they destroyed their monopoly status. It’s a slow rot. But a rot that will kill their value eventually. And I am here for it.

[–] seacocker@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

On the bright side for them, they still have a commercial monopoly. The number of ads might go up while the quality of the content goes down.

[–] whereisk@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Inertia will keep a train going for a while, as the engine dies.

The people that are now on lemmy were the heaviest users. The ones that bought 5 different apps to improve their experience and figure out which one they preferred : the mods, the creators, etc.

Have they all left Reddit completely? Probably not, but now they split their time. And stats say the proportion on Lemmy is increasing.

We now have an opportunity not only replace but contribute in the creation of something new - new mechanics, new rules and more.

Reddit is tired and has been for a while, Lemmy developers are building the Reddit they always wanted, and are innovating at breakneck speed.

Simple things like Top by 1, 6, 12 hours which we now have here, was badly needed in Reddit but they were too busy trying to shoehorn video and flairs.

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[–] JDPoZ@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

*pre-2010 Digg

Digg after that was no longer competition. It was an ad-riddled trash-fire which drove a massive number of its users away to places like reddit... including myself... who just kinda did something similar with reddit.

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[–] Skkorm@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Without Apollo on my iPhone and Sync on my android, I'm not using Reddit. Lemmy filled that void. The only thing missing are niche communities. That will come with time.

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[–] EnderWi99in@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Dropped Reddit a month ago after 12 years of daily use and while it was tough in the initial days Lemmy/Kbin activity has really picked up and is beginning to absolutely fill the gap. Just need the apps and a bit more stability and think it's going to be a proper successor.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

When the protest started I poked around the Fediverse and it was a ghost town and was a little concerned that Reddit might not have any competition. But since the end of June posts and content have been going way up, and the quality of the posts is way better than Reddit, even before spez fucked things up.

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[–] Kurroth@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I was using reddit less and less, but when the furry subreddits made their way into /r/popular and /r/all that was it for toilet browsing/squat'n'surfing... Seeing a sign for 'werewolf breeding zone' was enough for me.

[–] Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I now have the mental image of Spez frantically struggling to explain to advertisers why their posts were appearing besides werewolf breeding zone memes. So thanks for that.

[–] DigitalAudio@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I’ve never cared for furry stuff, but hell, I probably would’ve stayed if I’d gotten anything nearly as hilarious as “werewolf breeding zone” instead of all the religious and techbro crap I was getting through their ads.

[–] jennwiththesea@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yes! What was up with that Jesus ad, ad nauseum? Weird and also just boring.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've been wondering that too, since I found the campaign to pester my kids constantly. Tried to clean their browser history and change the algorithm but it keeps popping up.

Basically it's a disgusting attempt to brainwash kids.

From Wikipedia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/He_Gets_Us

The campaign primarily targets younger demographics and religious skeptics

He Gets Us has faced criticism over the extensive spending by the campaign, its donors' support of anti-abortion and anti-LGBT groups, and disputes over claims that the campaign is apolitical.

most of the individual donors who provided the money have chosen to remain anonymous.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Maybe 'he gets us' is not the best thing for religions to be saying to kids considering all the sexual abuse scandals...

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[–] Cliffmode3000@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

They took my reddit is fun away! Actually disgusting imo.

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