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Debian is a free operating system (OS) for your computer. An operating system is the set of basic programs and utilities that make your computer run. Debian provides more than a pure OS: it comes with over 59000 packages, precompiled software bundled up in a nice format for easy installation on your machine.

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Red Hat shitstorm (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 2 years ago by 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works to c/debian@lemmy.ml

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Everyone is getting jerked around by IBM and now Oracle adding to the drama

Meanwhile my servers are stable and debian development keeps quietly chugging along with minimal noise

Just wanted to say how much i love the debian project and all the contributors

People should recommend debian more

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[–] unix_joe@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 years ago

IBM did no favors here. We pay for Red Hat support on front facing stuff, but used Scientific Linux and then CentOS for over a decade on our backend stuff.

We have already been testing Ubuntu since the CentOS Stream thing caught us off guard. Now with the attacks on downstream players, we will not be paying for equivalent Red Hat licenses. We can't afford it.

Funding is down. The global economy has been in a downturn for a while, and now the pandemic "free money" boost is done. Our budgets are shrinking.

IBM decided to squeeze their clients at the wrong time. It was a mistake. We are looking outside RHEL and its derivatives for the first time in over 2 decades.

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I always recommend it, but business offices and manager types seem to think they get some added value from using redhat because they had to pay for it. I never understood the appeal.

[–] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I understand the need for 24/7 paid support. "Nobody ever got fired for buying IBM" is a real thing

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 3 points 2 years ago

Funny, where I work we had entire teams being let go because somebody in management decided that Microsoft could do a better job of handling our email. So now for the last several years we've had teams working to manage the massive amount of spam we started getting. Management decided to remove THOSE people recently and let Microsoft manage all of our spam controls. And guess what? People are already complaining that there's no way to shut down the constant "quarantine" emails even though you marked a sender as blocked, plus the quarantine emails don't come until a day or two later so the actual important emails that get sucked up are not even being seen until well after a response was needed.

So yeah, "buying IBM" can get you fired if you have a microsoft fanboy in management. ☹

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

99% of the time when these big companies buy licenses the person actually managing the server doesn't even have access to the RedHat account for support.

[–] mudamuda@geddit.social -2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

As alternative to the RHEL and its clones maybe. But there is no alternative to Fedora in Debian (with exception to Ubuntu and derivatives) family, even Sid consists from outdated packages.

[–] mhzawadi@lemmy.horwood.cloud 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You do know that you can get more up to date packages from other sources?

I get nginx from them and PHP from an ex deb dev

[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Plus everything is in containers now so you can pull or build what you like

[–] Raphael@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

Flatpak, even if you want to stay on Fedora you can't run away from the future they're pushing.