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[–] Repulsive-Office-796@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I mean, can you show per game stats instead? They haven’t played the same amount of games.

[–] broke-collegekid@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

If anyone says they wouldn’t rather have Lawrence, they are lying to themselves

[–] BobbleBobble@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Of course we'd rather have Lawrence, but he's also been pretty underwhelming for the prospect hype he had.

[–] Erice84@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Obviously you'd rather have Lawrence but he was never even close to being on the table for the Bears. He was always going number 1 and they would never have been able to trade up for number 1.

[–] Erice84@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Obviously you'd rather have Lawrence but he was never even close to being on the table for the Bears. He was always going number 1 and they would never have been able to trade up for number 1.

[–] chrismatic13@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Best to Worst is Left to Right and Trevor was unattainable since he was always going 1st. Who else could’ve the Bears drafted that would’ve been better than Fields? The only better QB at that slot was Brock Purdy who went undrafted and let’s be honest…he would not have the success he has in SF on the Bears.

[–] OkBoomer6919@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

1370 passing yards says enough. Fields ain't it

[–] Standard_Employee751@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I’ve said I would’ve took Fields 1OA and I stand by it.

He’s been out 4 weeks, still more TDs with a lower turnover worthy play % on a much worse team. I’m more than happy with that.

[–] Magno83@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I'd rather we ruined Lawrence because I like Fields more. If we could do it over, fuck up the other guy.

[–] Bushido_Plan@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

TLaw in a heartbeat.

[–] Orange_bratwurst@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I’ll take Drake Maye thanks

[–] OkBoomer6919@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Why are passing yards not shown? Who are you trying to fool?

Lawrence - 2,382

Jones - 2,031

Fields - 1,370

[–] WzDson@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

T law is also trending towards bust label like the others.

[–] DJTheBearsFan@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Davis Mills baby!

[–] Toomuchlychee_@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

They won’t even show Zach Wilson or Trey Lance smh

[–] Draker-X@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I love how we're now pretending "Rushing Yards" is an important stat for QBs now. They're not.

I'd much rather see Justin Fields throw 35 times a game and run 6 times than 23 and 18 like Sunday.

And I would instantly trade Fields for Lawrence.

[–] BrownPapi94@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Just want to note the pressure percentage %. Trevor Lawrence has basically been pressured on 66 of his 332 attempts while JF1 was pressured on 48 of his 185 passing attempts. This could skew his completion% as well

[–] MiddleNameIsJoe@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

That's definitely not how probability works

[–] BrownPapi94@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah Joe tell me. Who was the top quarterback taken last year and the year prior and then the year prior. Is the first quarterback drafted more likely to be a future superstar or a quarterback middling of the pack? Instead of taking the last 3 years let’s take the past 60 years. Please identify all the superstar quarterbacks taken at each position to clarify that the superstar was always taken in the first couple of picks. We can make it even easier and just say the bears drafted in the first 4 rounds.

[–] BrownPapi94@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Historical data isn’t all of probability but a majority of probability in a spectator sport is how it’s calculated. If it isn’t then Tom Brady would’ve been a first round pick, Brock purdy would’ve been a first round pick and even Jalen hurts. If you did the research you would find that most quarterbacks drafted in the first 3 picks of the draft didn’t work out as intended.

Again, trade back accumulate picks. Pick bpa never said draft a quarterback

[–] BrownPapi94@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah Joe tell me. Who was the top quarterback taken last year and the year prior and then the year prior. Is the first quarterback drafted more likely to be a future superstar or a quarterback middling of the pack? Instead of taking the last 3 years let’s take the past 60 years. Please identify all the superstar quarterbacks taken at each position to clarify that the superstar was always taken in the first couple of picks. We can make it even easier and just say the bears drafted in the first 4 rounds.

[–] ubeen@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Fields has that high of pressure percentage because he holds onto the ball until it's a sack. The oline is well above average this year.

[–] The_Wata_Boy@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Its obvious Lawrence & Fields are the only QBs from that class that has potential to be a starter in the NFL. I guess Lance never got a fair shot at being a starter, but its not good when Mr. Irrelevant and Sam Darnold beat you so convincingly that your GM trades you to the first team willing to give him a draft pick.

[–] ubeen@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Fields is still a Prospect. I think both Fields and Mac Jones will get another opportunity somewhere else, but both have failed their respective teams who drafted them.

[–] Apotheosis69420@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If you’re comparing their stats this year and they haven’t played the same amount of games, you kinda have to break it down to a per game average.

[–] PM_ME_UR_BATMANS@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

This is a good point. You could look at this and argue Trevor has taken more sacks than Fields not realizing Fields missed four games. And the disparity in passing yards between the two is huge but that’s partially due to that as well.

[–] Practical-Courage812@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I think stupid sexy T-Law is the only QB from that draft that most would take over Fields. I think Fields is the second best QB of that draft, but this may also be a historically bad QB draft, with now Fields being the only other QB in that first round to not be benched. Wilson is terrible and Lance cant seem to get past QB2 on a depth chart. And Mac Jones seems to have been destroyed by whatever the Pats did to him last year and hasnt been able to come back under O'Brien. So yeah, i think T Law is the only QB i would take over Fields from that draft.

[–] IntelligentFilth@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Trevor Lawrence is the pick because he wins the games that matter and elevates the play of his teammates. There is no metric on that sheet for that.