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[–] HarkMahlberg@kbin.earth 116 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Solo devs burning themselves out on their hobby projects is basically how the entire Internet used to work, and we're currently living in the consequences of that.

[–] sidebro@lemmy.zip 60 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The "Buy them out and monetize their shit"-phase

[–] PostaL@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago (2 children)

We should have normalized sponsoring community projects we like, maybe?

[–] sidebro@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Like, as in donating? Man, should we ever! Donate to you local instance, right now!

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago

Ah yes, let's pump more money into everything. That will surely make things better.

[–] absquatulate@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm just amazed at the entitlement of people about this, or number of people treating this as some sort of betrayal because he sold out and didn't want to continue free solo work on it.

[–] HarkMahlberg@kbin.earth 4 points 3 days ago

I've built a game mod that now has a couple thousand users, it's true about the entitlement. I'm grateful to those users who expressed their support and glee, but so many -- admittedly well-meaning! -- people come in asking for basic assistance that don't read the FAQ. And then there's the handful of people who really believe you're there solely to serve them.

Can't even imagine single handedly supporting a site the size of SteamDB.

[–] arules@retrofed.com 2 points 4 days ago

Threadiverse would be the first to cite you Pareto distribution’s without proposing ways to inverse it. Damn leeches!

A kind reminder that the internet, the world wide web, and TCP/IP were all invented by a public-civic partnership, not the private sector.

[quote][i]“Now we stand outcast and starving 'midst the wonders we have made…”[/i][/quote]

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Fuck they're going to break steamcharts and IsThereAnyDeal aren't they. They're going to put an API Paywall up

Steamcharts has been an absolute thorn in publisher's sides for years

[–] AzuranAurora@piefed.ca 14 points 4 days ago

Welp, let the enshittification begin. Nexus has degraded significantly these past few years.

[–] BiscuityCat@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

oh, this is bad. I use SteamDB to check for new releases and get info about games... how am I going to find new games now?

I always wondered why those solo devs/admins don't ask the community for a help if they feel the pressure or transfer it to some other hobbyist that would have the time for the project, instead of making a decision that pretty much dooms the project?

[–] philtron@lemmy.zip 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Hey asked for help/ looked for so to take over several times.

[–] BiscuityCat@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

He did? I have never noticed. My bad then.

However, it is surprising that noone came to help him.

[–] arules@retrofed.com 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

it is surprising that noone came to help him.

not according to lemmy.

[–] davitz@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Wait, you link three examples where Lemmy users point out that the Pareto principle explains data showing the way that engagement and revenue are distributed between games on Steam. I'm failing to see how that's relevant to whether people would be willing to assist or take over the steamdb project. Obviously we can see in hindsight that they didn't, but how do these links address whether that's surprising?

[–] arules@retrofed.com 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Because the masses that use Steamdb to make financial decisions on when to purchase games, the folk looking to save money, are the first to not pay for the research service they depended on. Take a look rn at the upvotes. If 229 people paid a dollar to crowdfund its independence, steamdb wouldn't have been a financial loss. Yet months of pleading went unanswered, until Black Tree Gaming Ltd. offered to monetize the site. 80~% of the users caused the site to operate at a cost, 20% offered to monetize it as an investment. Black Tree Gaming Ltd. won the bid. I don't blame steamdb for choosing to sell it, I blame users for not financing it above costs.

In piefed, you can see my reaction.

[–] davitz@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Alright yeah, I agree with all that, but what does that have to do with the users that responded to reports about how game revenues are distributed by accurately associating it with the Pareto principle?

Theoretically even if the donation needs were met, it would be a small percent of users providing the majority of donations. So I don't really see how acknowledging the existence of the principle changes whether it's surprising that no one helped out.

[–] arules@retrofed.com 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ask them that. I am using them as examples of political inaction. Sometimes you have to sacrifice a little bit of your budget to support something.
Heck I read they are campaigning the politically incorrect way to stop killing games.

it would be a small percent of users providing the majority of donations

🤣 I am glad you're also applying the principle even now. But you can reapply it to amount people unaware steamdb even exists🤣. Just like you were unaware the pleading was made for months, 80% of the population didn't know either. We are the 20% knowledgeable base. I’m just part of the .001% that is too politically aware enough not recreate steamdb as a subscription crowdfund.

Plus, I hate capitalists.

[–] davitz@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Okay, now I'm extremely confused. How is being aware of the Pareto principle and mentioning it in situations where it applies "political inaction"? And more to the point, how does referencing it in response to reports about game revenue distribution in any way related to a person's willingness to donate to steamdb?

[–] arules@retrofed.com 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Because as of typing, both, !skg@lemmy.dbzer0.com & steamdb community have yet to accomplish their goals.
Political inactions in correct game conservations, inactions in financially stabilizing a community project.

I apologize if my language makes shortcuts in conclusions, I don't want to be writing essays on how politically ignorance is the prime cause of gamers losing the political battles they set out incorrectly to achieve. It just gives me much dramatic irony to see history repeat itself. I take inspiration from Buddhists, and cope laughing.
me for the past years

[–] davitz@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, sure, gamers are politically ignorant and fail to achieve their goals.

But what does any of this have to do with the Pareto principle?

[–] arules@retrofed.com 1 points 3 days ago

I just said how:

But you can reapply it to amount people unaware steamdb even exists🤣. Just like you were unaware the pleading was made for months, 80% of the population didn’t know either. We are the 20% knowledgeable base.