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[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 270 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (9 children)

I've been told that the stuff isn't actually plastic, but rather clear cellulose, and can in a pinch be used as a wrap to roll a joint. Yes clear cellulose papers do exist, but you think I'd actually trust smoking cheese wrapping stuff? Hell no!

Regardless, after hearing that years ago, I did try burning a cheese wrap after that, and much to my surprise the wrap didn't melt like plastic, it burned like paper.

I just got done trying it again, with a different brand of cheese, and yeah this one burned and melted like plastic. ☹️

I guess different cheese makers use different wrapping material, but either way, if someone suggests rolling a joint in cheese wrap, just say NO!

[–] AFLYINTOASTER@lemmy.world 119 points 2 years ago

You are a modern day Magellan, never change

[–] Osa-Eris-Xero512@kbin.social 67 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You can't just drop a thesis like that without telling us what the good brand was my guy :(

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

LMFAO! I hear ya there!

Sorry to say that I don't remember what brand of cheese it was the first time I tried that years ago, but I can tell you what brand not to use as I just basically confirmed they use plastic wrap, Great Value.

I never did try rolling or smoking a joint with either test though. Being naturally skeptical about the random advice, I only tested just burning the wrap by itself. Weed costs too much to waste on experiments ya know haha!

[–] grue@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

I can tell you what brand not to use as I just basically confirmed they use plastic wrap, Great Value

Wal-Mart's store brand being shit doesn't surprise me in the slightest.

[–] Chronographs@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Of course it was Walmart’s store brand

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Indeed, what else should we expect? ☹️

[–] SpezCanLigmaBalls@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] thesprongler@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I have clear rolling papers and they're a cool gimmick but not at all practical for everyday use. Harder to roll and doesn't stick to itself as well.

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[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 123 points 2 years ago (9 children)

I got a milkshake a while back, in a plastic container, with a plastic lid, for some reason it also came with a plastic spoon, and a paper straw, since they are cutting down on plastics...

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 48 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Here, the paper straws were individually packed in plastic foil.

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[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

I know this probably isn't the best place, but I really hate the way paper straws feel, but I also hate being handed a any straw when I can just drink straight from the cup anyway.

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[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 65 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I mean there was some joke libertarian candidate that literally ran under the slogan "Make America Grate Again" claiming that he would outlaw sliced and shredded cheeses to make America embrace its graters and its grating roots.

[–] n00b001@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How is clamping down on the freedom companies have to make plastic cheese, and the freedom for people to buy it... Libertarian?

Isn't that pretty authoritarian?

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No no, you see, it's because libertarians are dumb

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[–] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

I bought a rotary grater about two years ago thanks to a post on Reddit and I rarely ever buy sliced cheese anymore, if I do it's the kind that comes in one pack with parchment paper in between the slices.

[–] CodyCannoli@lemmy.world 61 points 2 years ago (11 children)

If they didn't they would all melt together cause that stuff isn't real cheese.

[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 49 points 2 years ago (1 children)

when the contents have as much plastic as the packaging

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[–] new_guy@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago (2 children)

They could use parchment paper I think.

[–] BluJay320@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 2 years ago (26 children)

Was just about to say this. A decent amount of brands do use paper instead of plastic to separate individual slices, but I’ve only seen it with real cheese. Never with American cheese

Also before anyone says something, no, American cheese is not real cheese. In fact, it contains less than 50% cheese. It is officially considered a “pasteurized processed American cheese food”.

Also it’s only good for grilled cheese, bacon egg and cheese sandwiches, or melting onto leftover spaghetti. I will die on this hill.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Ingredients for Kraft American cheese slices:

CHEDDAR CHEESE (CULTURED MILK, SALT, ENZYMES), SKIM MILK, MILKFAT, MILK, MILK PROTEIN CONCENTRATE, WHEY, CALCIUM PHOSPHATE, SODIUM PHOSPHATE, CONTAINS LESS THAN 2% OF MODIFIED FOOD STARCH, SALT, LACTIC ACID, OLEORESIN PAPRIKA (COLOR), NATAMYCIN (A NATURAL MOLD INHIBITOR), ENZYMES, CHEESE CULTURE, ANNATTO (COLOR).

It’s not health food, but if it’s less than 50% cheese it’s because of the milk/milk products added into it to make it meltier. The only thing making up more than 2% of it that isn’t cheese or a milk product is sodium and calcium phosphate. Different cheeses for different jobs.

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[–] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

melting onto leftover spaghetti

This one caught me off guard, but I'll admit I'm intrigued.

[–] BluJay320@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It’s divine. Just fill a bowl with spaghet, tear one or two slices into strips and lay them over the top, nuke it for about a minute, mix it all up, do another 30 seconds, eat, cum repeatedly

[–] FrostyTrichs@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hold on what was that you mumbled at the end?

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[–] CodyCannoli@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Not sure if parchment paper would work for this particular form of fake cheese because its literally a liquid that they pour into the plastic. It solidifies in the fridge.

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[–] STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Personally, I like cheese but I always found plastic sliced cheese just fucking gross. Melted cheese in plastic blech

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[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 40 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

Remember when fruit stickers used to be paper and biodegradable? Now they're all fucking plastic because they need their logo to be shinier I guess.

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[–] ieightpi@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago (14 children)

Or just don't buy American cheese because it's gross and fake.

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[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Two things: these are basically plastic anyways.

Also, the plastic straw thing was a PR move. Corporations don't give any shits unless it will make money or lose them money.

I'm sure there was a nontrivial number of customers who either boycotted or threatened to boycott companies that didn't switch. When their bottom line gets threatened like that, they take action to prevent revenue loss.

Nothing more. There's way more problems with everything than plastic straws. My favorite PR move is how they convinced everyone that their cars are causing the majority of CO2 emissions from transit.... Between that and airplanes, everyone is up in arms about the electrification of everything.... Yet, the most major transport offenders are freight, and they have no plans or intention of changing their ways. I heard somewhere that if you were to have zero carbon emissions for your entire life, you would save the approximate amount that freight liners emit in a year, at most. I think a year is too long. I forget the exact figure.

They emit more CO2 than all the cars, and all the planes and everything else you could point to... Yet, I have yet to hear anyone tell me about it, either personally, or on the news or anything. Everyone seems oblivious to the facts. They latch on to these "issues" like straws and personal vehicle CO2 emissions which are trivial....

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[–] LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Good American cheese isn't individually wrapped. Only the really cheap shit comes like that.

[–] jasondj@ttrpg.network 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Good American cheese is the really cheap shit.

The whole point of American cheese is that it’s barely cheese and more like a delicious coagulated milk-stuff sheet.

Gourmet American Cheese is some 1%-er bullshit.

[–] deur@feddit.nl 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The good American cheese is not in fact "1%-er bullshit". Have you gone to a restaurant like McDonalds? You have eaten the better stuff, which comes pre-stacked in a large block. It is certainly much better.

[–] ridethisbike@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Wait .. did you just tell me that McDonald's uses gourmet cheese??

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[–] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

The fact that you called McDonalds a "restaurant" has me cracking up, while yes, it technically is, no one goes there to have a nice sit down meal with the family.

Cheddar is so much better than American.

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[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Thank you for fighting the good fight. Kraft Singles make people not want to try deli-style American. It makes me sad.

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[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Fake Plastic Cheese, good radiohead song.

I admit growing up pretty poor, these were considered a treat lol.

[–] SasquatchBanana@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You may be remembering Radiohead a bit differently than the rest of us.

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I don't know what you're talking about. The lyrics seem pretty clear about the song being about cheese.

Her green plastic ez-cheese can

For her fake Chinese cooking pan

In the fake cheesy earth

That she ate from a spray cheese can

In a town full of muenster plans

To get rid of American

It wears her out

It wears her out

It wears her out

It wears her out

She lives with a queso hand

A sliced American hand

That just crumbles and molds

He used to get pepper jack

For girls who want that jack

But American always wins

And it wears him out

It wears him out

It wears him out

It wears

She looks like the fake cheese

She tastes like the fake cheese

My fake plastic cheese

But I can't help the feeling

I could chew through the sealing

If I just turn and taste

And it wears me out

It wears me out

It wears me out

It wears me out

And if it could be cheese you wanted

If it could be cheese you wanted

All the cheese

All the cheese

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[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Considered the following:

The slices of cheese are analogous to each of our individual lives: it's boring, manufactured, and there is a wrap of plastic which define us as individuals but keeps separate from one another. The only good aspect of American cheese is that it is designed for melting, so in essence, by removing the plastic barrier that keeps us separated, we, like the humble slices of American cheese, can melt and become part of something greater than our individual selves (like a burger or a grilled cheese).

Or as Karl Marx once said: Life is plastic, it's fantastic.

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[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 12 points 2 years ago (10 children)

I really want American cheese that is not wrapped in plastic. Kraft makes it but it costs more than double the plastic wrapped stuff. I've paid that price when times were plenty but they are no more.

[–] HatterTheSad@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Buy a cheese slicer and thank me later. Another pro tip buy cheese from Amish people if you can, I love like 30 minutes away from an Amish store & their cheese is on another level.

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[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago (12 children)

Why the fuck didn't Twizzlers capitalise on the non-plastic straw market?!

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[–] spudwart@spudwart.com 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Cheese like this always tastes gross.

[–] fromaj_debite@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This is not real cheese, it is american cheese.

[–] CalicoJack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 years ago

For the record, good American cheese does exist. It's just a blend of cheddar and Colby with some annatto for seasoning, instead of the extruded "cheese product" stuff in plastic wrappers.

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[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

A daily reminder that durable biocellulose plastics have been available for over 75 years.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 8 points 2 years ago

Well in this case plastic for plastic seems fine

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