It is darkly hilarious russians can still enter the EU for tourism.
this post was submitted on 04 Sep 2026
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Why? Is Russia at war with Europe? Are russian tourists responsible for the russian invasion of Ukraine?
Is Russia at war with Europe?
Explicitly, yes, and Europe is kicking russia's ass in it when the rightwing isn't sabotaging resistance to russia.
Are russian tourists responsible for the russian invasion of Ukraine?
Yes, at least partially.
Russia is a nation of cowards too afraid to stand up for their freedom, which always leads to violence and war.
So easy to stand up against the Russia government, they must be real cowards for not wanting to be locked away forever, right?
I am also only an internet person, but i fully understand people not wanting to throw their life away. Even if they don't agree, if there is no organised movement you can hardly blame individuals. If you do that, we all in the west are at fault for what happens in palestine. Well..i guess we are, for all the governments supporting israel. So how can we condemn russian citizens for crimes of their leaders? (Citizens, not soldiers).
Instead hate on the people responsible, the Putins, the Trumps and Musks in this world. Hating on civilians is only divide and "those up there" are the only ones profiting.
Edit: to clarify, i do not condone the russian armies invasion and i wish they would fucking stop yesterday, but i don't blame civilians for this and applaud everyone of them who does risk their life fighting the government
if there is no organised movement you can hardly blame individuals.
I would not so confidently presume...
Explicitly, yes
Ok. No point in arguing with someone that delusional.
Russia is a nation of cowards too afraid to stand up for their freedom, which always leads to violence and war.
.... and obviopsly racist.
Is Ukraine not in Europe?
It's culturallyeabout as European as Russia is. But before 2022, westerners usually didn't consider Ukraine as "European". That framing happened afterwards.
Also, the original statement implied that Russia is supposedly at war with the EU.
Oh come on, lets not be pedantic, do you honestly think russia isn't at war with the EU? Even if you define the terms and framing so it technically isn't we are talking about splitting hairs at this point in a way that is completely unproductive to a broader discussion.
Insofar as russia is not at war with the EU it is because russia is incapable of taking on more than a single country or two at a time... not because russia's aims are inherently localized to whatever nation it is attacking currently.
Believe me: As a citizen of the EU, I would fucking notice if the EU was at war with Russia.
The biggest attack on German infrastructure (for example) that happened since 2022 was actually carried out by Ukrainians (i.e. the Nord Stream explosion).
Wake the fuck up!
Aaaand we're at the level of covid cooks, congratulations. /s
No, the helplessness of russians is learned, russians are the same human species as me, the difference is I wasn't raised to have a learned helplessness about politics.
What is it? Are they "cowards" or "raised to have a learned helplessness"?
Either way: You're spouting racist bullshit. The EU is not at war with Europe and russian civillians don't really have a say in the invasion.
What is it? Are they “cowards” or “raised to have a learned helplessness”?
Yes
russian civillians don’t really have a say in the invasion.
bullshit bullshit bullshit
Dictatorships are nothing new, that never fully excuses a populace, it gives important and necessary context yes but it does not absolve responsibility.
As I said: no use in arguing with someone delusional.
russian civillians don't really have a say in the invasion
Who invades ukraine?
Do you think wars happen, because the soldiers like to murder?
They do choose to murder.
I agree. But that doesn't negate my point that the decision to go to war in the vast majority of cases isn't made by the broad population, but by a minority that has little to lose and much to gain (compared to the soldiers on the battlefield).
Deluded Russian or Russia supporter spotted.
Sure. Not being a fan of Sippenhaft makes me a supporter or even worse: a Russian. /s
Deluded Russian or Russia supporter spotted.
Sure. Not being a fan of Sippenhaft makes me a supporter or even worse: a Russian. /s
Good. Why are they allowed into the EU anyway?
To flee the terrorist dictatorship and give their workforce/money to the EU? People who are leaving the oppresive state deserve a chance for better life. Don't give an equal between the people and the state/government, please.
To flee the terrorist dictatorship and give their workforce/money to the EU?
On a tourist visa ? I don't think so.
You can't legally work on a tourist visa, and if you're only here for a holiday you're hardly fleeing the Putain dictatorship are you ? Just taking a pleasant break from it.
I've met these "Russian refugees" you speak of. They just don't want to fight the war, but they whole-heartedly support it. They come over completely brainwashed talking about how "the West is too LGBT and DEI", unable to see what that propaganda did to their country. If Pootin wasn't president there, they'd be praying to some other shitty God who tells them how the West is the enemy.
Russians shouldn't get VISAs, they should be classified as refugees and put into refugee camps where they learn the local language and have to learn what democracy is.
Germany to EU: We can’t stand it. We know they planned it