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Looking at the rest of the current top teams in the NFL and their records against teams that currently hold a winning record:

  • Eagles (9-1) are 4-0

  • Ravens (8-3) are 4-2

  • Chiefs (7-3) are 3-2

  • 49ers (7-3) are 3-2

  • Jaguars (7-3) are 1-3

  • Cowboys (7-3) are 0-2

  • Dolphins (7-3) are 0-3

Part of the Lions's low record against winning teams is due to a weaker NFC North this season (although Vikings currently hold a winning record and Lions have yet to play them). But it still stands that the Lions have had a relatively weaker schedule this year, and have not defeated a team with a current winning record since Week 1.

This stands to change with upcoming games against the Vikings (6-5) and Cowboys (7-3), as well as possibly the Broncos and Saints (5-5) depending on how their records turn out.

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[–] LocustUprising@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

The lions should have simply asked the league to predict the future when making the schedule, so that the lions would never play any bad teams.

[–] Radalict@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Didn't Lions finish 3rd in their division last season? So of course their 3 random games will be against bad teams. Not sure if they've played those teams yet.

[–] RabidWolverine2021@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If Kelce and Chris Jones played in week one they would be 7-3 and 0-3 with teams over.500…no way they win at Arrowhead.

[–] MajoraOfTime@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

With the drops Kelce had last night, I no longer accept this kind of thinking.

[–] josephus_the_wise@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

What are some of the mid teams like? I know the vikings are 3-2 against teams with a .500 or above record, but I’m curious about everyone else around our stratosphereu

[–] cmay91472@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Last season…. Eagles had an easy schedule and the narrative was that they didn’t face anyone good.

This season… Eagles have an extremely tough schedule and have already beaten the 7-3 Chiefs, 7-3 Dolphins and the 7-3 Cowboys all within this past month and the narrative is that they are just lucky wins.

Go figure 🤷🏻‍♂️

[–] pornokitsch@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I dunno, I'm more and more thinking that a good team is one that successfully beats the teams it should beat, and doesn't randomly crap the bed at times.

Given the relative parity of the league, a team consistently winning teams against "bad" teams is still plenty impressive.

[–] alloythepunny@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

given these criteria, there are zero good teams in the league

[–] ilikemarblestoo@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Heck man, even the Jets have 2 wins

[–] Sufficient_Junket_8@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I mean, we're a coin flip or better reffing away from 2-1. All I'm really seeing is that our schedule has been easy, which no Lions fan would disagree with. We can talk again after our matchup with the Vikings and Cowboys. For now there's not enough information to make a judgement call.

[–] Thel_Odan@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Sometimes you just get lucky.

But even though I absolutely snort lines of Kool-aid, I know that the Lions aren't quite a Super Bowl team yet. They're better than they have been in fucking ages, but they still have some work to do.

[–] Kelefane41@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

You can only play who is on your schedule. These things aren't fluid. I've never understood why people get uppity over SoS. Either you win, or you don't. And the Lions are doing more winning than losing right now. Their fans have the right to be excited.

[–] Ryanbrasher@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

It should still get them to the playoffs. That’s still a huge win regardless of how they got there

[–] boogswald@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Blog boys are salivating at this post - it’s gonna be a topic on every podcast now

[–] nooo82222@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I just want say the first 5 weeks in the NFL is teams trying figure out their teams and get people in positions. After week 10 you know the good teams and great teams. So any team in first 5 weeks losses and win don’t count.

[–] NetworkVegetable7075@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Weird thing is that most of the teams they did beat had winning records at the point they played Detroit

[–] Flashy-Priority-3946@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

This ranking perfectly summarizes the current top 4

[–] OptimisticRealist__@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Lions are a good team.

Lions are also overrated and benefitted an awful lot from being in the NFC, which is a joke of a conference.

Both things can be true

[–] SaltyRussStan0@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I don’t think the Lions are real contenders, but using a 3 game sample size where they won 1 of the games is dumb

[–] downtimeredditor@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Dolphins still don't have a win over a winning team and their win over the 5-5 Raiders wasn't tough win

[–] downtimeredditor@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I still have no idea how they keep losing to the Seahawks

[–] MetaphoricalMouse@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Are we gonna have a bird bowl in the super bowl this year? A midatlantic one at that?

[–] Brief_Schedule_5036@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How many divisional games have the Lions played so far?

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[–] DJuan313@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I’m just happy we finally winning the games we supposed to win the old lions couldn’t beat bad or good teams 😭

[–] ILkeSportzNIDCWhKnws@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Maybe let's wait til we have a larger sample size than 3

[–] mskrow53@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

The CFL champion Montreal Alouettes were winless against teams with a winning record and undefeated against teams with a losing record, until the playoffs when they beat everyone to win the Grey Cup. Make of that what you will.

[–] Hawthornephect@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

It's a good point, but can't control your schedule. An interesting point to is that the more you win, the more losses the teams you play have and the weaker your past strength of schedule. Conversely, the more you lose, the stronger your strength of schedule is.

[–] LackOfAnotherName@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Almost like teams with winning records don't have many losses

[–] oldblueeyes182@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

There is more parity this year than usual and no clear cut dominant team. Every contender has it's issues. Even Philly at 9-1 hasn't beat any team by more than 14 pts. I think the 2022 Eagles beat this year's version. Long story short any given Sunday and the playoffs are gonna be wild this year. Lions are legit, Dallas is legit, SF is legit... Same with Cleveland, Jacksonville, Houston etc in the AFC.

[–] Reasonable_Emu_2636@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

When we beat the Chargers, they were .500.

When we beat the Bucs, they were 3-1.

When we beat the Falcons they were 2-0

When we beat the Packers they were 2-1.

I despise this stat

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[–] yourdoingitwrongly@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

According to ESPN the only fraud team on the list is the Eagles

[–] jcfan4u@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

The team with only 1 win this year (1-9), has more wins against teams with winning record than the Dolphins and Cowboys lol.

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