just so you know foam tips won’t give you as good of an experience you’re basically taking all their noise canceling engineering and throwing it in the trash, apple makes them so they are a tight fit to function perfectly with the buds.
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If you are referring to the comply foam tips, please do not think that they are “noise reduction” or “hearing protection” tips. Yes, they get a better seal than the stock tips, but they are absolutely not ear protection devices, and arguably would be worse than going unprotected due to the false sense of confidence.
Hearing protection is a serious, serious deal - any damage, no matter how small, is permanent and will never heal. It’s also cumulative, so it will build up over time if you’re in loud environments. Earbuds are not protective devices, and noise cancellation is not protection. Noise cancellation filters out sounds that you don’t want to hear, but they absolutely do not do anything to the high energy pressure waves that cause hearing damage and permanent loss. If you work in a noisy environment (sustained sounds over 90dB) there are all kinds of great hearing protection devices that also have Bluetooth connectivity - sure, the sound quality might not be as good as AirPods, but I’ll take that for a short amount of time vs not actually being able to hear for the rest of my life. Look at brands like Walker and 3M. Net/net if it’s not explicitly labeled as hearing protection you might as well just have nothing in your ears.
Source: firearms enthusiast, woodworker and aficionado of other noisy hobbies who will have his ears go “RRRREEEEEEEE” and say “What?” a lot because he was stupid about ear pro when he was younger.
Noise cancellation filters out sounds that you don’t want to hear, but they absolutely do not do anything to the high energy pressure waves that cause hearing damage and permanent loss.
Is that right? I mean, a 20db reduction is a 20db reduction regardless of whether it's done through passively dampening the pressure wave or actively cancelling it electronically, right?
There’s a great article from The Hearing Review. TL;DR it actively reduces the signal reaching your eardrums and provides a noticeable level of hearing protection.
It confuses me when people really do mean well, and this guy just doesnt want op to fuck his ears, but don't actually research what they're saying so it's just wrong lol.
I have tinnitus and it’s allowed me to enjoy concerts without the muffled sound of earplugs. As a huge music guy, I would have paid for these if that was the only thing they do.
I’m a woodworker and adaptive mode is huge when I’m running my bigger machines for a long time. It doesn’t eliminate the sound completely but it is a huge reduction and it’s less cumbersome than wearing bulky earmuffs.
And why tf do the airpod maxes not have it…
You just convinced me to give it a go.
I’m confused, what do you mean it still allows contextual sound in?
I tried adaptive mode and found it drains the battery of my AirPod Pros a lot faster. Have others experienced this too?
Works as advertised
Oh nice, didn’t know about that function. Thank you!
So the foam tips are interesting. I originally thought they were nothing special… just a different material which some people might like better than silicone. (There have long been foam and silicone options for in ear headphones)
I’m wondering if the foam actually gives you better sound isolation though? (The theory being that the sound attenuation through the foam is greater than a single flap of silicone.
Anyways, yes… the most annoying thing about transparency mode is turning on a faucet to wash your hands! God damn it’s annoying!
Adaptive mode fixes that quicker than turning on noise cancellation would take me. Within a second or so of the faucet being on, it takes the edge off.
It gets better the more you use them in the same environments. There’s something predicative about them that I don’t know how it’s doing it, but I use my everywhere, no exception. At this point, I have no need to take them out unless I’m asleep. It’s a fantastic algorithm that has some type of ML built in, because I’ve loved them since the feature was released in beta, but is is continually getting better to the point where I rarely, if ever, have to adjust my volume anymore.
Wow. I just got the pro 2 after having the pro 1 for the past three years. I work as a trim carpenter so I’m always cutting stuff but also trying to talk to my boss. I had no idea that I had the adaptive mode on, I just thought it was transparency like on the first gen. What a game changer! I’m so excited now, I noticed things were better with the second gen, but this was an upgrade I should have done long ago! Thanks for bringing this up!
It's amazing for walking and commuting
slightly hear things coming your way or interacting really close to you while removing all the shit hawks from far away
Do not use AirPods in place of proper hearing protection gear. You can cause permanent damage to yourself.
I do wish it was more customisable
It’s really really good.
anyone know how it works in concerts?
what do you want to go with airpods to a concert of smh
To protect your hearing?
I would still probably just use earplugs instead.
I’ve been to 17 concert occasions this last year, ranging from 100 people crowds to 65k crowds and sound levels from around 95-100 dB but occasionally upwards of 110 dB (according to Apple Watch Series 8). I’ve tried using musicians hearing protection plugs from $20 to $150 that are supposed to be “transparent” and “balanced”. Despite trying a multitude of different tips (the last set came with like 15 options). they’ve all let me down either in comfort or sound quality/muffling of frequencies. My AirPods Pro (1st gen) have been the most comfortable, and have provided the best sound quality overall. My ears seem really picky when it comes to the fit of the tips (and this has been my general experience for the last 25 years or so). For me the AirPods Pro just work. Way better than the “real” ones. My SO recently got AirPods Pro Gen2, and her experience for the last couple of concerts we’ve been to mirrors mine (we’ve been to all of these concerts together, and have both tried using “musicians” ear plugs before eventually switching over to AirPods)
So what do you set them to noise cancelling while at the concert?
Yup. And with the overall sound level being so high, what is being let through still sounds great., but “appropriately” loud rather than deafening.
Yes adaptive mode is amazing. I commute into the city via walking and train a couple days a week and it is fantastic. I've removed regular transparency as well and just use adaptive when I need to hear. I feel like the people that complain that it "doesn't do anything" aren't in the environments it was made for so they don't see much of a difference, but if you're in the city or noisy environments it's a game changer.
Last night I was at a loud Friendsgiving party and I was so so thankful to have my adaptive noise control. It’s barely noticeable but that’s actually a good thing for its functionality. It completely eliminated the really annoying fan noise and when the crowd got rowdy it didn’t hurt my ears. Huge QOL improvement. And don’t even get me started on walking around near cars
A little off topic, but why were you wearing headphones at a party?
To compliment his meta raybans
Because it was loud?
If I was invited to a party through my SO or someone else but I don't know anyone, I try to avoid going there. But if I cannot, phone + music helps me to not feel awkwardness.
I also noticed Transparency mode improved. Or it could be some kind of placebo.
In the past, transparency mode would make the music a bit too quiet in an environment with a lot of white noise.
Now, even with transparency I can hear the music clearly while also being able to hear my surroundings.
Transparency mode was great while I was at the airport this week. Was able to hear all of the boarding information and my music. I started the day with my Sony WH-XM5 but ended with the AirPods Pro.
I use mine with transparency at work and don’t feel the need to remove them at all (unless someone is talking to me obviously not to be rude).
I sometimes even forget they’re there tbh. They fit me perfectly out of the box.
I go from noise cancellation to adaptive mode since it’s just better at cancelling sounds, but adaptive mode works great when you need to be aware of your surroundings and have it go to noise cancellation when needed.
That’s what I’ve been saying!
Can we circle back to the hearing protection custom tips? I’d appreciate a link to that lol
I want to throw out a word of caution here: DO NOT use these tips in lieu of hearing protection if you are doing something that requires hearing protection.
I mean, do so at your own risk. It’s your ears, after all…
If it’s something that you would normally not wear hearing protection for, and you just want to be able to listen to music without cranking the volume up… well then this might be a good solution for you.
Yep sounds super intriguing
There are a lot of loud trucks driving along the first quarter of my dog walk route. I immediately realized the value of adaptive sound. I can still hear the trucks and maintain spacial awareness. However the truck noise is reduced and I do not need to turn the volume up to unsafe levels to continue to hear what I’m listening to.
I noticed how good it was at our Santa Clause parade last weekend. It would automatically adjust to limit the loudness from the sirens and bands and what not. I was really impressed.
I believe it limits any sound entering your ears to around 80 decibels. I wear mine every morning going to work. My commuter train has the loudest screech as it comes to a stop. Now I can hear that it is still loud but I know it’s safe for my ears.
It’s really good but I wish it could have better cancelling while at home with noises from outside