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If Reddit were to revert it's changes to 3rd party apps would you stay on Lemmy or move back to Reddit?

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[–] ForynGilnith@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

For me, they'd have to

  1. Replace /u/spez
  2. Implement some sort of publicly auditable accountability re: shadowbans and database-level comment editing
  3. Open-source significant parts of their platform.

I have zero expectation that any of these things will happen. The most healthy way forward, for an open and free internet, is the meritocracy of the fediverse.

[–] jax@lemmy.cloudhub.social 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Did he get caught editing comments again? And the shadowbanning?

[–] ForynGilnith@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Not recently... I'm just completely out trust and benefit of the doubt based on the various controversies and where their (Tencent) money is coming from.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Trust is the hardest thing to reclaim once lost, and this isn't the first break. Big social is having problems, it's the natural course of things.

[–] kalipike@lemmy.one 8 points 2 years ago

This is a great point!

[–] kalipike@lemmy.one 16 points 2 years ago (6 children)

The CEO just tripled down and said they are not changing their intended API pricing regardless of how many subs and users go dark.

Even if they did, I think a lot of redditors have been fed up with some things with Reddit (both the company and the first-party app) for a while.

Of course, there will be people who just don't care and will continue to go about their redditing as usual, and those who will go back. A fair number of my close friends don't care at all as they use the first-party app, have no complaints, don't moderate any subreddits, and don't follow the Internet news.

I would love to see my primary communities move over to federated social platforms. It reminds me of the Web1.0 and earlier Web2.0 days.

[–] jax@lemmy.cloudhub.social 4 points 2 years ago (6 children)

The CEO just tripled down and said they are not changing their intended API pricing regardless of how many subs and users go dark.

Link? That's not good news :/

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[–] cyberic@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Personally, I don't see myself going back. I'll just chill with my new community here.

[–] Anon2971@beehaw.org 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I wouldn't care. The irreversable damage is done.

Reddit's handling of the API change criticisms showed me how little they care about the community that keeps them afloat. The way the CEO's AMA pretty much ignored all criticism of the API changes (including comments asking why the new price is so extortionately expensive) whilst lying about Apollo's developer threatening them.... They've shown their real colours.

I don't want to use a platform prioritising profits above everything else. I used Reddit for over a decade and they've eradicated my trust in a few days.

Reddit as a company have clearly demonstrated their philosophy as a social media platform is make money. Even if they reverse the decision, at this point it'd clearly be a PR move to save their sinking reputation rather than coming from a place of genuine constructive dialogue.

Its a shame, but at the same time I'm excited to see where things go from here. Reddit's always had a bit of a quality control problem due to its sheer volume of content. Maybe this mass user exodus will lead to an alternative community discussion platform with a smaller, more refined, engaged userbase.

I'm actually excited to see where things go from here to be honest. Maybe Reddit will become a home of pointless content like memes whilst deeper discussion happens elsewhere. Maybe that'd be better, actually

[–] robocop@fedia.io 10 points 2 years ago

They've already posted that they're going to "double down" on ads on their platform and they are not going to back down on the API rules: https://www.redditinc.com/blog/investing-in-what-makes-reddit-unique-introducing-contextual-keyword-targeting-and-product-ads

[–] roseh@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I already like the community here more

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[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 2 years ago

I’ve returned to Reddit from Lemmy in the past, but this time it’s different. There are enough people posting content here now that it feels like a community (and not just a few nerds hoping it will take off). Never thought I’d say this but, thanks Spez for creating such a vibrant community.

[–] Kettellkorn@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think if this works out I may switch permanently if they back out. If not I will only use Reddit as the occasional info lookup and use this as my “social media”

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[–] hbar@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago

I've fully committed to replacing reddit in my life, I'm trying to be active here and pointing people to Lemmy when I can. Reddit has made it clear they dont care about users. they get content for free, moderation for free, etc. They pissed on their base and deserve a mass exodus. I just hope people follow through.

[–] 108beads@beehaw.org 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nope. Everyone makes mistakes. But you don't go full Armageddon on the people whose blood, sweat & tears built you up from diddly, and then say "oopsie." It don't work like that, Spez. Have fun with your IPO.

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[–] TootSweet@latte.isnot.coffee 7 points 2 years ago

I don't trust Reddit any more. I made a comment elsewhere about why.

[–] neo@lemmy.comfysnug.space 5 points 2 years ago

It wouldn't matter at all, because it's just a matter of time before they implement such features and don't back down.

They'll just continue shit-testing us until the blowback isn't enormous if they go this route.

[–] goddamnpipes@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

I don't intend to go back nearly as much as before, even if the changes are reverted (unlikely, imo). A lot of the aspects of Reddit that I didn't like - but tolerated - are generally not found here, at least so far. While Lemmy still leaves things to be desired, it just feels better to engage with.

However, I may still add " reddit" to the end of a search query to avoid all the bloat articles that crop up in a search. There's still a wealth of useful information on Reddit from all those years for even the most niche questions / topics.

[–] caffeineplease@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I fully support all the reasons for ditching Reddit altogether, but if I can’t use Apollo, I’ll only ever use it on desktop, and even then just to look stuff up via Google.

Installed Mlem and have committed to making this place a good one.

The apollo_for_reddit developer (android) is looking into making their app compatible with alternative platforms, hopefully more Reddit apps follow suit so they can make interacting on Lemmy as frictionless as possible

[–] WarMarshalEmu@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I will admit that I'd keep RiF on my phone just to doomscroll in airports and whatnot. Though I think I'm going to stop my desktop use (90% of my use) of Reddit regardless. The writing is on the wall for old.reddit.

[–] jax@lemmy.cloudhub.social 4 points 2 years ago

I don't think I'll go back except for niche content/communities I don't expect to see here for a while.

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

Yeah, I'd go back. I notice the bot content has gotten bad on Reddit, but the communities I follow are still okay.

[–] RedPander@lemmy.rogers-net.com 4 points 2 years ago

For me at this point I think Steve Huffman would need to step down along with a step back of their changes. I can't trust the platform given his track record.

[–] gabuwu@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago

Lemmy is too good to leave. I don't think I'm alone either. I was wanting an alternative for a while.

[–] NebulaBC@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago

I honestly think most people would go back just out of habit. Even if they don’t go back, once things calm down. I’d absolutely love people to move to fedi, but I just don’t think it’s gonna happen.

[–] dr_doorknob@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I would stay on both. Keep reddit just for the more specific subreddits I like that aren't big here.

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[–] artic@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

use both lemmy and reddit

[–] Vivi@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago

I haven’t been a daily Reddit user for a long time, if Apollo stayed active and useable I’d keep it loaded on my phone but I’m into the vibe on lemmy and want to be part of it.

[–] pinwurm@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm seeing how things play out.

I certainly like Lemmy and I could very well use both for a while. I'm mostly worried my favorite subs (especially my local City sub) won't migrate or be an active enough group here. Time will tell. I want to follow the community, not the platform.

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