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[–] JG8AB9TL11OBJ12AD13@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Just want to say I think we’re going a little overboard on how “bad” the qb play has been this year. I know this is going to seem like me being a homer, but I’m only using tua because I know his stats off hand. I’m pretty sure Josh Allen for example is going to end up with similar numbers. Tua is on pace to end just under 5,000 yards (4987), 70% completion percentage, 36 tds to 13.6 int. Is that the best season in nfl history? No. But this year probably wins mvp in a few seasons over the last 15 years

[–] LiftingCode@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Allen's problem is the turnovers which are arguably driving Buffalo's down year. If not for that he'd be a clear favorite.

But I agree on Tua. He's got the stats for it.

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[–] finalboot@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

If they make the playoffs, I 100% agree. If not Garrett then it should be Tyreek

[–] QuirkyScorpio29@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

We all know this won't happen..before they even think of giving it to a defensive player...they will see if they can get a WR ( Hill) or an RB (CMC) the award.

In most cases,the QB with the better stats between the 1 seeded teams in either conference will take the award...with a caveat for this particular season.

Right now it would be Hurts vs Lamar for MVP...so Lamar would likely be favourite in this scenario with the narrative advantage of having a worse roster on paper.

If KC gets the one seed with their WR troubles...even with a good defense...Mahomes will have the "He has no WRs but is the 1 seed anyway" narrative to play with.

If we (SF) somehow get the 1 seed...then the AFC QB 1 seed will get the award by default coz Purdy will NEVER be taken seriously for MVP consideration because of multiple BS reasons....CMC is a RB so that would be used against him too in this H2H.

The actual MVP picture this season from a performance standpoint should include Garrett, TJ Watt,, CMC, CJ Stroud, Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes and Brock Purdy. I excluded Tua and Dak for lack of big game performances of the others..Hurts has not played like a top 5 QB by any real stat or even the eye test.

[–] onetime2121@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

have the argument and then give it to a qb

[–] Steelers7589@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don’t understand why CMC isn’t getting more consideration. Currently 8th and he’s having a better year than any of the QBs.

[–] mikejr96@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Sorry but he’s not more impactful than Tua/Dak/Shroud currently and possibly even Purdy in that mix. And Hurts is a media darling with the best record so there’s that. Just don’t see it happening the way things are these days. OPOY most likely.

[–] Steelers7589@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I think CMC and Tyreek are more impactful than Tua. The entire cowboy offense is stat padding against bad teams. Stroud, I may agree. IMO all the QBs are just having OK years by MVP standards.

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[–] FlipFlopFarmer24@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He would have to break the season record sacks, and take the team deep in the playoffs to even be considered. Couple more fumble for touchdowns, pick 6, and a safety or two… who knows what happens. Just keep winning.

[–] gyman122@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Playoffs don’t factor into the MVP, votes are submitted at the end of the regular season IIRC

[–] AntMavenGradle@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He needs to get drug tested tbh

[–] GPDillinois@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

He does periodically…all season and even in the off season.

All players under contract with an NFL team are tested for substances on the NFL drug panel

[–] Critical-Adhole@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Daron Bland.

[–] Efficient_Progress_6@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Nick Bosa's 9/11?

[–] Immediate-Addendum72@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Same dude who assaulted a player on the field?

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[–] MrDeeds117@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

If they so good why did colts hang a 38 piece on em????

[–] kamekaze1024@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Garret for MVP, Bland for DPOY

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