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Was really surprised to see the difference in fumbles.

  • Tua: 3177 yards passing, 69.8%, 4 fumbles lost
  • Allen: 2875 yards passing, 69.6%, 3 fumbles lost
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[–] JohnsonMachine@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Playmaking QBs turn the ball over.

[–] Alstead17@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Interesting post OP, who, despite being unflaired, seems to exclusively defend Allen whenever they comment.

[–] retroracer33@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

didnt realize tua was turning it over so much

[–] LEDZ100@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

He doesn’t. Almost every fumble was a result of a bad snap or muffed handoff.

[–] MilhouseLaughsLast@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I have no doubt this was posted by a salty bills fan

[–] kekehippo@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Maybe Josh will do Tua a solid and get his INT count up this weekend.

[–] TheRatchetTrombone@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Many of the turnovers were in lower stakes games and moments while many of Allen's are him pulling a Brett Favre and costing him games. Plus, we have been superior in running the ball. Fuck outta here trying to prop up Allen as unlucky. He's a turnover god of a gunslinger. He's not going to change.

[–] doyouunderstandlife@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

A good chunk of Tua's fumbles are from snaps because Connor Williams is not a good snapper (great blocker however). A couple of other fumbles have also occurred on direct hand-offs that were given directly to the RBs but just never secured (I think those were attributed to Tua, but idk for sure). There was also a weird backwards pass on a bad play call against Carolina that went out of bounds for a loss.

Out of all the fumbles, I think about 2-3 were legit strip sacks, and one was a fumble on a QB run.

[–] eattwo@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not a great year to have Burrow and Tua as my QBs in fantasy

[–] MikeHuntsBear@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I feel your pain bruh

[–] Bobblefighterman@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

>Was really surprised to see the difference in fumbles.

i'm not. Any of our RBs not named Achane or Mostert will practically hand the ball over to the defense, and our center isn't even a center, leading to wild throws to the QB that he inevitably fumbles.

[–] Username__Error@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

The number don't lie. Time to release Josh Allen and bring back Nathan Peterman.

[–] Josh_in_Shanghai@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Allen is relied on to win games. Tua is an elite game manager. Our skill positions (we,tv,db) are relied on the to win games.

[–] similar222@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Saw a stat last week that Allen actually had more turnovers than turnover-worthy plays

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