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[–] Xanthrax@lemmy.world 135 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

I mean, no joke, a dog whining/ begging is conditioning you.

I am a dog.

I beg. You give me food. I look cute.

I beg. You don't give me food. I cry.

Next time I beg, will you give me the food?

Probably.

After that: I look cute. You give me food.

Congratulations, you've just been conditioned by your dog, buuuuut you get a cute dog, lmao.

[–] ikapoz@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I seem to remember reading that domesticated dogs evolved more expressive eyebrows that proved to be a survival advantage in this process.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've seen a few things that have shown many animals have developed a sense of "cuteness" specifically to deal with us.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I've long had a theory that cats have evolved to be just cute enough that we don't murder them. Cats are evil, so it's understandable that humans would want to kill them, and I think we probably did early on, but some of them were so cute that we didn't. Those surviving cute cats reproduced and made more cute cats, but they also became more evil. Over generations, we have created beings that are supremely evil, but they're just so gosh darned cute that we let them get away with it.

[–] harmsy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Replace every instance of dog with cat and you've got the reason I give out treats at night before I start cleaning dishes.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Too bad it's not Pavlovian conditioning afaik

[–] SoylentBlake@lemm.ee 75 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The correct answer is

Fuck Pavlov

Motherfucker is like the Hitler of dogs. It's a shame his name is remembered for the conditioning and not the mutilation. Dude was a monster.

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wait really? Ive never been told about this

[–] Sway_Chameleon@lemmy.world 54 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yeah, he cut holes in their throats so food would fall out and added additional holes along the digestive tract to collect various "gastric juices". He also, apparently, started a business harvesting and selling said juices as a cure for indigestion..... not sure how that worked, seems like it would cause more than it cured.

[–] Scribbd@feddit.nl 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My god. We don't deserve dogs if we are not adjusting Pavlov's reputation for this.

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 years ago

Well, thank you for letting us know. I read about Pavlov in textbooks in school, its better we dont whitewash his reputation! I learned the honest history in school about nazi medical experiments, I deserved to know about Pavlov too.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

But the mutilation was part of the research I thought

[–] harmsy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I guess Piccolo was right to curse out Pavlov.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 37 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Such an existential question in so few words.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Or.. it's just an obvious "yes"...

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 31 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My dog trained me to get him water by lifting the toilet bowl lid. He doesn’t want to drink out of it, but he knows I’ll get up to stop him and check his water on the way. Now he’ll lift the lid then go stand by the water dish.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 28 points 2 years ago

Alternatively: your dog has learned how to effectively communicate with you to ask for water.

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 31 points 2 years ago

There is a joke about that:

Pavlov is sitting in a bar enjoying his beer. The phone rings. Pavlov jumps up: "Damn! I forgot to feed the dogs!"

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What's haunting about this question?

[–] braxy29@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

i suppose it's that his intent was to train (essentially to control) something apart from himself, but he likely trained himself in the process (created something within himself that he did not control, at least for as long as the response was conditioned).

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago

Assuming he was conditioned by the sound of the bell. Which might not be the case.

[–] Kiwi_Girl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago

Your brain being altered without your consent/awareness?

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago
[–] Emerald@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Image Transcription: Twitter Post


Jeremy Parish, probably, @gamespite

Out of nowhere, my nephew just asked, "Do you think Pavlov thought about feeding his dog every time he heard a bell ring?" and now I'm going to be haunted by this question

[–] JPJones@startrek.website 2 points 2 years ago

The mice will see you now.