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[–] Kismetatron@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I was looking at applying for one in the future but if this goes to Synchrony I’m absolutely out. They are notorious for closing accounts in good standing for various and dubious reasons.

[–] Voidfang_Investments@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I wonder how this will impact credit age and such.

[–] thepu55ycat@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Jesus. Well, I haven’t heard anything from Apple directly. Think we’d all get an email soon, no? I got the card for the cash back on practically every internet purchase using Apple Pay. Then the 0% on iPhones for two years (one year on the other devices) was sweet. I hope they can keep that with whoever they hook up with. Honestly I didn’t expect this to last long. Apple makes it really easy to pay the card before the interest piles up. I barely pay any interest on the card.

[–] roshanpr@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So the cards will stop working soon?

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[–] McFatty7@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

At one time, I was on the edge of getting the Apple Card because of their $0 interest on almost all Apple products, including the iPhone, but once they got rid of the unlocked iPhone with 0% interest, I knew the writing was on the wall.

Especially when it was directly competing with the iPhone Upgrade Program.

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[–] AdventurousTime@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Let Amex take over and have Amex issue Mastercards since there is a deal in place until 2026 jajajajaja .

[–] AdventurousTime@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

so we don't have to pay off any remaining balances? Hooray! /s

[–] LeftEagle510121@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

If only 😂😂

[–] PyRed@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I’m not sure if I understand this correctly. Is Apple pulling the plug or is Goldman pulling the plug here?

[–] efr57@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (8 children)

I got this card for one reason, and one reason only. My son-in-law has one…threw it down one day to pay for something. That clink…that metal sound…what is that I had to know? And now…I have the clink. So my hope is that that is not going away. Not sure who else makes a metal card ( probably some AE version)..but I am easily entertained in my old age as you can see.

[–] BirdBruce@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

AMEX Hilton Honors card is titanium now.

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[–] churningaccount@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I mean, if any company has the resources and bandwidth to spin up an in-house operation, it’s Apple. I’m sure they’re, at the very least, considering going partnerless.

Especially since, given Goldman’s experience, I’m sure any contract with a new partner would pass more of the losses on to Apple than previously.

[–] stjep@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Being a bank is lucrative if done right — just ask the airlines.

Which airlines run a bank?

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[–] SpindriftRascal@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

That sucks. The functionality has been excellent, IMO. I like it much better than my cards from Chase or Amex.

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[–] helloitisgarr@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

noooo :( i hope someone takes over the apple card

[–] CanaryRich@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Yikes … so what does this mean? I really hope Synchrony doesn’t get the contract. Damn, this is the credit card that I have the largest limit and history with, this sucks.

[–] DogzillaMD@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Get a Citi Doublecash. One of the best cards around. No fees. Keep that thing open for life.

[–] CanaryRich@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

To be honest at this moment I’m done opening credit cards because I have all I need, but if anything happens where Apple doesn’t continue with the Apple Card then I may be forced to. It’ll be a big hit to my credit.

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[–] Snorlax_Returns@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The Apple Card is the card I have the longest history with, and I would like to keep the account open for another year or two.

Is there any actual harm that Synchrony could do to us?

I hardly ever use the Apple Card, so I’m not really concerned about bad customer service or something like that.

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[–] J_SQUIRREL@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Dang. This stinks. Auto populating card info is really nice.

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[–] SpaceBoJangles@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (4 children)

So…what happens to my 4.15% APY?

[–] EdwardEYP@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Should have moved to betterment months ago. They are at 5.5%

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[–] herbalblend@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (10 children)

Other than paying off my large Mac purchases over time, I've found very little use for this card in the wild.

Bank of America select cash back does 3% on all online purchases, including apple.

Chase freedom does 1.5% on everything. (which is a negligible difference from the 2% Apple Pay perk)

The combination really puts apple only perk as 0% APR.

I'm sure someone will vehemently tell me how wrong I am but, this is basically an in store credit card good for deferring payments only.

[–] SuperMazziveH3r0@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I pretty much only use it where they don’t accept my Amex because I can at least get the Apple Pay Cash back

[–] -Valora@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

It's phenomenally useful as a card programmed conveniently into all my Apple devices and I use it nearly exclusively overseas, especially in Japan.

[–] SolarTrans@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

There are tons of flat 2% cards these days. Nerdwallet has some nice write ups. Apple card was always about convenience for iPhones, and 2% flat wasn’t as common when it launched

[–] ttoma93@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Citi Double Cash is also a no fee card that gets flat 2% back on everything.

The Apple Card just truly isn’t a competitive product for anything other than the 0% financing and 3% cash back at Apple, and even that isn’t particularly standout, as you mentioned.

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[–] 104n2k1@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] spellbadgrammargood@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

im pretty sure 99.99% of people got an apple card for the "lolz". the cool thing about it is (1) it doesn't have a card number/cvv and (2) its heavy, so its fun to drop

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[–] metengrinwi@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Why don’t they just tighten up the lending standards, so they don’t have such high losses? Seems like they’re giving cards to absolutely everyone who asks for it whether not they are a financially stable customer.

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[–] sir_duckingtale@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

What a pity

Had a nice ring to it

[–] Tman11S@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (6 children)

At this point Apple might as well buy a small bank and do it themselves. They’ve got cash enough to run a bank

[–] College_Prestige@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Main issue is companies really do not want to become banks because it opens a ton of new regulations on them. That's why square fought so hard for an industrial bank charter which allows them to skirt oversight

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[–] hawksnest_prez@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I work in banking and the demands Apple has made in this article to Goldman sound like hell to deal with

[–] DannyBoy4T5@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Would outstanding balances be forgiven or nah?

[–] docliftalot@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

No, debt will be sold.

[–] Jazzlike_Sky497@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Not a chance 😏

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[–] d70@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

SummaryGPT

  • End of Partnership: Apple plans to terminate its credit-card partnership with Goldman Sachs, originally extended through 2029.

  • Partnership Scope: This termination includes their credit card launched in 2019 and a recently introduced savings account.

  • Goldman's Financial Losses: Goldman Sachs experienced significant losses in its consumer lending expansion, prompting a retreat from the partnership.

  • Potential Successors: American Express and Synchrony Financial are potential candidates for taking over the credit-card program, though challenges like loss rates are present.

  • Impact on Apple: The end of this partnership is a minor setback for Apple’s services business, which has become more important as iPhone sales decelerate.

  • Strategic Shift for Goldman: For Goldman Sachs, this marks a move away from consumer-focused services back to its core business with corporate and affluent clients.

  • Initial Partnership Challenges: The partnership faced issues from the start, including disagreements over marketing, approval rates, billing practices, and regulatory scrutiny.

  • Goldman's Employee Retention Efforts: Goldman Sachs is taking steps to retain credit-card employees until the partnership's transition is complete.

[–] FrenchBulldozer@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If it’s Synchrony or Well Fargo, count me out.

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[–] emuchop@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Meh. Cards useless to me once they got rid of 0% for non-carrier phones.

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[–] VictorChristian@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well, time to gear up tomorrow to either buy GS or AAPL on the dip...

Personally, I hope Apple can talk Amex to taking Goldman's place.

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[–] TheFluffiestFur@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Eli5: Does Apple have a bank account that's set for payments/refunds for credit card holders?

Like, do they have a line of credit that creates new lines of credit beneath the main one whenever someone gets a new Apple Credit Card?

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[–] 94arroyo@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

The new issuer should be Barclaycard to go full circle

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