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[–] deleted@lemmy.world 101 points 2 years ago

I’m not subscribing to streaming services.

I’ll ditch the idea of watching TV the moment my arr setup stop working.

[–] Uglyhead@lemmy.world 50 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Petty infighting between scene groups needs to stop. Fall together or fall apart.

[–] Anders429@programming.dev 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Did we read the same article? This mentions nothing about infighting between groups.

[–] Uglyhead@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

So, a couple people went down because OpSec was broken by rival scene groups outing people’s identities; from there things started to crumble more and more.

[–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Lesson: either get a seedbox, get a VPN in Amsterdam, or live in South/South-east Asia.

[–] feddit@feddit.de 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I believe this is more about scene release groups. People that rip bluerays or retrieve copies of cinema movies

[–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

They should be using seedboxes to seed, and should be using VPNs in other countries to upload their content. Worst case scenario, torrenting completely moves to i2p, eradicating the problems being faced by these groups today

[–] myofficialaccount@feddit.de 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is there a way to get and pay seedboxes anonymously? Otherwise the feds could "just" get your information from them. Like with every VPN service you got to trust the the service and their confidentiality (not keeping logs etc) I guess?

[–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Even if you do pay them anonymously, your IP will be recorded when you access/download from them. Case in point: Mullvad was forced to shut off port-forwarding because of torrent traffic on their network. Mullvad allows you to pay with Monero.

Don't do it for the privacy, do it because having the server in a different country like the Netherlands makes it easier to pirate. For all they know, you're just accessing random IPs in the Netherlands and all they see is HTTPS traffic.

[–] spaceaape@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

IP alone isnt enough to convict someone in the states though. Since it only points to the local network and not the person on the network it could be anyone on that network. It was the issue the RIAA ran into when trying to take music downloaders to court.

[–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

How about Denmark?

[–] myofficialaccount@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's the thing, you'd have to connect to the seedbox via VPN anyways.

I'm using usenet anyway, always have, always will ;⁠-⁠)

[–] Buck@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

How do you find good things on Usenet now? So much of it is uploaded encrypted

[–] FatTony@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why Amsterdam specifically?

[–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Plenty of data centres and the Netherlands are excellent in terms of government policy towards "sharing"

[–] interceder270@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Good to know. I've been concerned about finding host nations that let us do what we want.

[–] loganberryq@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"The most recent reported conviction saw a 37-year-old man receive a 60-day suspended prison sentence in September for pirating more than a thousand works through local BitTorrent trackers." Woaaah now, calm down there, killas. A hand can only be slapped so hard. Why even bother convicting at this point if one can pirate thousands of things and get a sentence like this? Surely they must realize how little of a deal it really is?

[–] Land_Strider@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

It is an action to emphasize the piracy is illegal and they will hunt you down for it using state resources, not matter the sentence.

This guy will be on their shitlist at least for a decade now. The next sentence would be times worse. But the best effect of this is that you sentence one guy, no matter how light the sentence is, then 1000 teens are afraid of ever thinking of piracy. Surely some of them will say "lol look at the joke of a sentence, so keep on pirating" but a lot won't.

What's better yet, a lot of those afraid teenagers will internalize piracy as both illegal and immoral.

[–] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 years ago

Hugs mullvad

[–] silmarine@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Were these people that were arrested not using a VPN?

[–] drunkensailor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

yea, never understood this.

i use a very thoroughly tested no-logs vpn for everyday casual stuff but this isn't the first time i've seen people doing encodes get caught. i'm not a genius but i know how to read shit online, ask questions, and test my setup... you'd think people doing sketchier stuff would lean into the same a bit harder than I have.