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[–] jplate8@lemmy.world 177 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down?

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 52 points 2 years ago (5 children)

The birth defect line actually narrows it down pretty well, depleted uranium concerns are basically bullshit so that largely narrows it down to Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia.

Everyone else either just got bombed to shit or just got done killing 25 million Chinese, Filipino, and Korean people.

[–] SlikPikker@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 years ago

Fallujah wants a word.

[–] Liz@midwest.social 8 points 2 years ago

Eh, I mean, I'd rather not have DU dust everywhere. It is still all alpha emitter, after all. Plus, it's a heavy metal.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

DU concerns with tank rounds are bullshit. With autocannon rounds, the dispersion and amount may actually be harmful.

To people that inhale dust particles from fragmented rounds possibly, but that's simply not a generational concern.

I think one day we'll find out any problems largely come from all the horrificly nasty chemicals that just so happen to be included by requirement in modern propellents and explosives as they inevitably make their way into the water supply and soil. While DU might not make that problem better, it's going to be a fraction of the contamination from a modern bombing campaign.

And a fraction of a fraction of the damage done by the kind of bombing Vietnam, Cambodia, and Laos suffered.

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Someone bought the propaganda, I see. You're right, DU is harmless to coat a country in, and all the cleanup efforts are only to clean away all non-DU contaminated soil. It's straight up humanitarian work they're doing!

[–] harmsy@lemmy.world 50 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"For you, the day Bison graced your village was the most important day of your life. But for me? It was Tuesday."

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It was a Thursday, you monster!

[–] A7thStone@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Eh, it was a shitty village anyway. I'm sure Miss Addams had her reasons 🤷

[–] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

They didn't like her silly dance.

[–] Sanyanov@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Also, yes, fuck all military. Color me brave, but all military sucks very bad and is cancer on the body of Earth, not just American.

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

No war but class war.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We wouldn't even need a military if nobody became a soldier.

They are literally the solution to the problem they cause themselves.

[–] Sanyanov@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Exactly.

"We protect you"...from guys like you on the other side? Cool, thanks.

[–] CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That stance is pure idealism. Yeah sure, it'd be great not to spend the money or emit CO2 just to make sure we don't get invaded*, but since that is a risk, and you can't just kumbaya it away.

Then, since having a military is at minima a defensive imperative, how is wanting to be a defender anything close to bad? Granted, some armies are pure ideological cancer, but that does not define what an army is, and it's not a global issue.

To get straight to the moral dichotomy of our time, how can you say that the English army who defended itself against the Wehrmacht were the same as the Wehrmacht? I'm not trying to corner you or being disingenuous, I don't get how you can say that all armies are somewhat the same

  • (this doesn't apply to the US military which is pure bloat)
[–] Sanyanov@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hot take: Wehrmacht fought a defensive war. Everyone fights a defensive war.

Wehrmacht tried to defend and secure the future of Arian race, they defended themselves against a perceived threat of Jews overrunning them.

English, while fighting fiercely against Germans, still militarily held their colony in India, protecting the interests of the crown.

Israeli army is now committing genocide, repeatedly and casually doing war crimes - in the name of protection, of course.

Every army, given the chance, will claim defensive interest in the war that's to come. That's why biggest war aggressor countries have Ministries of Defence, not Ministries of Offence.

There are all kinds of institutions out there that can help mediate demilitarization. Yet leaders of many countries don't want that, and we should force them to do so - primarily through the inside democratic pressure, whenever possible.

[–] jmankman@lemmy.myserv.one 6 points 2 years ago

To add to this, we renamed our department of war to the department of defense.

[–] lseif@sopuli.xyz 33 points 2 years ago (4 children)

vietnam war? sounds patriotic 🇱🇷🇱🇷🦅🦅🦅 who won? 🦅

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nobody ever wins, but someone always profits.

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

War is good for business.

Peace decidedly is not. Either a rare Ferengi L or humans are literally more evil than the Ferengi.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

In some ways, humans are worse. At least Ferengi have a universal code they all adhere to and anyone who doesn't is treated like a pariah. Imagine if Republicans had to actually be beholden to the law and knew they had to because that's how society worked.

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago

Surely it's the patriotic story of how the fort city of Vietnam, Amabama was won from the British. /s

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Luna Oi is literally a princeling.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I had no idea what a princeling is, thanks.

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (8 children)

American diabolism is such a moronic political philosophy.

America does all sorts of heinous shit - but that doesn't mean that "communists" biiiig air quotes on that one can't/don't do heinous shit.

I think tankies might be worse than Nazis because they act as a foil for socialist policies and positive change today, while being almost as genocidal. Why the hell would anyone want anything resembling communism if it looks like China, the USSR, or the DPRK? None are communist - they're just different flavours of autocratic state capitalism - no worker enfranchisement, no worker ownership of the means of production, little to no decommodification, shit quality of life.

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ah yes, both sides are equally bad in a conflict unilaterally started by the one side.

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[–] XEAL@lemm.ee 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Got in a little hometown jam

So they put a rifle in my hands

Send me off to a foreign land

To go and kill the yellow man

[–] GentlemanLoser@ttrpg.network 13 points 2 years ago

Reagan: make that my campaign song!

[–] And009@reddthat.com 19 points 2 years ago

The better question would be, 'which one?'

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"We were stopping communism, you ungrateful slanteye! And you're welcome!"

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Kissinger is no longer available for comment.

[–] KpntAutismus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

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[–] NeverNudeNo13@lemmings.world 11 points 2 years ago

I don't know what year the Colonial Marines invaded Vietnam, but color me impressed...

[–] ShitOnABrick@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Just a little tomfoolery

[–] spudwart@spudwart.com 2 points 2 years ago

“Because I could. Because you fell for it.” - Pong Krell

[–] Miss_Murder_17@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Damn bro, I didn’t realize Henry Pissinger had a body double.

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