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U.S. Representative Liz Cheney, an outspoken critic of ex-President Donald Trump, said she is weighing a third-party bid for the White House in 2024.

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[–] FoundTheVegan@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago

Do it Liz! It'd hurt Trump more than Biden, which is probably her thought process anyways. Idk, what's the downside?

[–] BarrierWithAshes@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

Omg this is really gonna be the year of third-party elections isnt it?

Gonna end up being Biden vs Trump vs Stein vs [libertarian candidate] vs Cheney vs Manchin?

[–] Melkath@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Well... If the Democrats can't deliver an actual liberal...

[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Biden is absolutely a liberal.

Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed, political equality, right to private property and equality before the law. Liberals espouse various views depending on their understanding of these principles but generally support private property, market economies, individual rights (including civil rights and human rights), liberal democracy, secularism, rule of law, economic and political freedom, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of assembly, and freedom of religion, constitutional government and privacy rights.

[–] Uranium3006@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Lol he hates half of that

[–] Melkath@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Then why does he label himself progressive and why is he STILL trying to send billions of dollars to continue the slaughter of Palestine?

I'm a life long liberal Democrat.

I dont know where your copy pasta comes from and I'm not clicking on your link.

Liberals are anti-war. Progressives are pro-status quo, which is pro military industrial complex, which is pro Israel slaughtering innocents with weapons and ammunition made by American military contractors.

[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I dont know where your copy pasta comes from and I'm not clicking on your link.

Can't learn if you don't click, random stranger. I linked to the wikipedia article on liberalism, what that "copypasta" was cited from.

Clearly it's the definitions that are wrong, lol.

[–] cozz33@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

I don’t have anything to add to this conversation but I just want to say you’ve done a great job at reporting news while remaining civil DarkGamer. I’ve never seen you get heated or take an all or nothing stance on an issue and honestly it’s so refreshing to see. You’re proof that people can debate things without resorting to shit slinging and name calling. Keep up the good work 👍

[–] HarkMahlberg@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I'm not clicking on your link.

My man, it's Wikipedia. It's where he copied the text from. You could afford to put in a little effort to engage in good faith.

Liberals are anti-war. Progressives are pro-status quo, which is pro military industrial complex

Progressives absolutely support cutting military spending to divert funding to single-payer healthcare.

[–] Melkath@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Cutting military spending is not anti-war.

Cutting military spending is a clever deal to keep the wars going AND fund Healthcare.

Progressives are pro-war, and that isn't liberal.

Liberals traditionally are Democrat and are increasingly disenfranchised.

Jesus, are you 12?

Give me that urban dictionary link that tells me what a liberal Democrat is. Fuck.

[–] PupBiru@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

americans use “liberal” to only mean socially liberal, however liberal describes both economic and social philosophies

Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed, political equality, right to private property and equality before the law.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism

economic liberals are all about the free market, social liberals are all about human and civil rights (among many other things)

Progressives are pro-status quo

LOL there's a new one.

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You’re thinking of conservatives.

[–] Melkath@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Conservatives?

Are anti-war?

The fuck you smoking?

[–] Zorque@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

Pretty sure they meant the other description you gave.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 years ago

biden is probably one of the most liberal presidents in recent history.....