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    [–] h0rnman@lemmy.world 105 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I know this is a meme /c, but for real, I bought this exact same product a while back. If this is your photo, just be careful about what you put on it. Mine lasted 2 months with a grape vine on it before it collapsed.

    Source: Arch user

    [–] Lorindol@sopuli.xyz 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Mine lasted a year with grape vine before catastrophic structural collapse.

    [–] jaybone@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I’m really not sure how much of this thread is a joke. Wouldn’t you just use solid slats of wood?

    [–] h0rnman@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Lol. The wife wanted something decorative and liked how it looked. Caveat Emptor, and all that I suppose. I knew I was buying from a less-than-quality source

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    [–] Lorindol@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    One definitely should use solid structures, metal or wooden. The damned thing cost ~10$ and I didn't have time to build a proper support structure at the moment. I meant to use it only as a temporary solution, which I forgot when everything was fine.

    The design of the arch itself wasn't the problem. The interconnecting pipes were only 1-2mm thick, so there was no way it could possibly support the weight of a flourishing grape vine.

    It was marketed as a "rose arch". I guess it could've handled this purpose without any problems.

    Buy wrong stuff, suffer the consequences.

    [–] deadsenator@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

    Just wanted to say we have one in our yard that has been there for almost 20-years. Previous owner left it to rot. I moved it close to some wild hops and they are covering it completely after two years. Still standing!

    [–] 48954246@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

    Ha, great tip. I'll keep an eye on it

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    [–] Norgur@kbin.social 34 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Idk what the issue is:

    1. Unpack
    2. Install
    3. ?
    4. It just works
    [–] TheInsane42@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)
    [–] jaybone@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

    This used to involve profit.

    [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Hopefully this simplified manual will end all complaints that Arch is too complicated.

    [–] KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

    I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Arch is in fact GNU Arch.

    [–] jaybone@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    I use arch-0.0.17b-x86-amd64-noarch.rpm from the snap store.

    [–] dan@upvote.au 2 points 2 years ago

    amd64-noarch

    ΰ² _ΰ² 

    [–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 24 points 2 years ago

    There sure is a lot of screwing involved in Arch ...

    [–] ikidd@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Well, you see, the internet is a series of tubes...

    [–] dan@upvote.au 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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    [–] palordrolap@kbin.social 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Makes sense to me.

    My only concern is that pipe c is shown as having two different shapes: straight and slightly curved.

    Based on the fact that the design requires that a and b be different, there would undoubtedly be the same situation for the four slightly curved c pipes. That is, there would need to be two "c2" pipes and two "c3" pipes in the set rather than just four more of the same c pipe.

    That makes me think the diagram at the bottom was made before a decision to cut costs and/or simplify. Four regular c pipes will undoubtedly be cheaper and logistically simpler to manage for both shipping and user construction than having those two extra pipe types.

    It was, of course, relabelled to match the supplied parts, but the hints of the original design still remain.

    [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Wow you are too hardcore Linux user for me to grasp what you mean. I suppose pipe is the new sound system though. But why the need for so many?
    I wasn't even aware that level of abstraction was possible when talking about Linux, not even Arch.

    [–] palordrolap@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Pipewire? It's very new to me and can't say I know much about it, not that I knew much about its predecessors either.

    ...
    (But putting the silliness hat on...)

    The pipes in the diagram are obviously named pipes, but they're not Linux pipes. There seems to be not only multiple types (which is disturbingly Microsoft), but often multiple by the same name (which would confuse most sane OSes, if not the insane ones too.)

    It's almost like they're instances of a subroutine object all running in parallel...

    [–] lseif@sopuli.xyz 15 points 2 years ago

    i assemble arch, btw

    [–] confusedwiseman@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

    Read’s instructions: β€œDoesn’t seem that bad, what’s the issue?”

    Sees: β€˜Arch User Manual’

    Notices community…

    D’Oh!

    [–] shadearg@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Four of them c parts lookin' a lil too curved...

    [–] NoSpotOfGround@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    I bet the counts of 8 and 12 for c and d are swapped by mistake...

    [–] ashok36@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    They're not. A is the starting piece on both sides. B is the end piece. C and D are the pieces between a and B.

    The order for each side would be acccddddcccb.

    E is the 11 bars that hold the two sides together.

    [–] NoSpotOfGround@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    The drawing does say that... It's just that the curvature on those top Cs makes them look very much like Ds to me.

    [–] KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
    [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Not the Wiki I expected. ;)

    [–] KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Wait, which Wiki did you expect?

    [–] Public_Tumbleweed@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
    [–] jvrava9@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    For people that complain, remember that its still more sturdy and easier than assembling windows.

    [–] Veneroso@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    If you have extra parts when you're done that's a compiler error, check your module dependencies.

    If you're missing parts, check the forums, but this looks like a new system; that wifi chipset might be unsupported.

    Metric? Somebody set the region settings wrong!

    [–] dan@upvote.au 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Metric? Somebody set the region settings wrong!

    That's a weird way to spell "correctly"

    I'm a metric user btw

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    [–] macrocephalic@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    I'm not especially interested in Arch, but I'd like to know where the metal garden is 🀘

    [–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

    Scott Wieland enters the chat

    [–] FQQD@feddit.de 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Metal Garden sounds like a 2000s metal news website

    [–] jaybone@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

    Sounds like a 90s grunge band.

    Or rather a really shitty ripoff of one.

    [–] kuneho@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

    Metal Garden Arch - strangely works as a distro name as well I think

    [–] yournamehere@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

    i think it is the wrong one. it should say mental garden arch linux manual.

    [–] Kyatto@leminal.space 6 points 2 years ago

    Step 1. Build it

    [–] key@lemmy.keychat.org 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    I know the straight pipes move data between processes and curved pipes go to or from files depending on direction, but what do bolts do?

    [–] Nilz@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 years ago

    The bolts are libraries, if you remove them everything will collapse.

    [–] ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    I read that assembly instruction set provided. It doesn't look like any architecture I've ever seen.

    [–] Restaldt@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

    I thought it was a thing for kids to climb

    [–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Have you looked on the Arch wiki for the Metal Garden package?

    [–] DocMcStuffin@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

    That sounds pretty niche. You may have to check AUR.

    [–] NickwithaC@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Ahh that sure is a fine looking metal garden arch.

    WHY CAN'T MINE LOOK LIKE THAT?!

    [–] CodexArcanum@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago
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