This is a very good thing. Thank you EU for forcing us dirty heathens in NA to have consumer protections.
this post was submitted on 15 Jul 2023
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Once again, the EU drags the rest of us into modernity kicking and screaming.
Alexander Anderson would like a word, heathen
I hate the term consumer the only I consume is food . How about buyer or customer just anything but consumer
Consuming does not mean eating. Either you produce, sell or consume a product.
Tough. It is appropriate description for what you are doing. Every tangible thing you buy at some point gets discarded one way or another. You've consumed the energy and materials needed to make whatever it is.
You consume and discard many things throughout your life. The fact that you consume so much should make you uncomfortable. I agree with using customer instead of consumer, but only because I want to get away from the idea that your only purpose in life is to consume things. I hate that being a "consumer" is normalized. Consumptive culture is both terrible for the environment and for the health of society.
Steam deck done. https://www.ifixit.com/Device/Steam_Deck
Isn't the main issue whether or not there's an ease to replace? There's like 20 steps and a bunch of easily breakable cables involved with replacing it currently.
I mean I think you can replace the Switch's battery too by that standard.
Same site even says it's only 1 extra step in total, though instead of the cables being in the way, it sounds like the shields a bit more difficult.
But like either of these replacements would require a technical user to do it.
it should be done by 2027 at the latest it sounds like.
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Says 2-4 hours and “difficult” on the battery replacement page
And requires heating + prying.
If this is considered replaceable, I wonder what an non-replaceable battery would be. Soldered to the main board and trying to unsolder it causes a failsafe to short the CPU?
its an easy fix. replace the adhesive with stretch release battery adhesive.
Nah. The battery on my old Samsung Galaxy S4 literally just pops out with minor force applied as soon as the cover is off, leaving the phone ready for a new one to be slotted in. That is what "user replaceable" means.
Don't get me wrong, I am familiar with electronics, have a diploma in electrical engineering, have soldered hundreds/thousands of components, etc. and I could do this easily (though I have concerns about heating the battery). But most people cannot currently replace the battery without significant headaches.
Steam deck done.
Not really. Look up the Linus Tech Tips teardown. The battery is glued in super hard. Linus said he spoke to Valve about that and according to him Valve said they're looking into making it easier to replace at a later date. Since then I've not seen any reports about a change.
i think 'user replaceable' should involve no tools, and a minimum of time. if step one involves removing eight tiny screws, and it only gets more cumbersome from there, i don't think it counts.
The currebt rule says "No propritary tools" which seems reasonable when you add in that glueing in is considered "non-replacable" too. The GBA SP needed a single screw to hold in it's battery and nothing else. Plus with proper threading, screws last much longer than plastic clips.
Excellent, I like that I can replace batteries easily from my old handhelds, the only issue for that case is finding trusted ones.
It’s a good thing Valve makes the official parts and tutorials available on ifixit for the deck
The battery is still unnecessarily glued in with permanent adhesive that requires a heat gun to melt it though.
I never understand why batteries need to be glued in at all, surely pure friction will keep them in place. If you really need them stuck down use pull tabs.
I think there should be a requirement for easily expandable storage as well.
Switch and Steam Deck seem to be OK for this, but I'd like to further piss on Apple's chips.
I think it should be fully replaceable storage, not just expandable because a lot of companies throw out completely fine devices to get rid of sensitive information on the soldered drives
Yeah, in place of the EU I would fuck apple up for their decision on soldered ssd. It's not only stupid, but just inhuman towards nature.
New switch confirmed before 2027!
Hopefully this doesn’t just manifest itself as simply not selling these devices in the EU. Seems highly unlikely that would be the case, but a possibility I suppose.
I doubt they would do that since the EU is such a big market
The EU market is almost as big as the US market so yeah they'd be giving an awful lot up.
The Steam Deck is nearly there with replaceable batteries. You need to have a bit of experience to do it, but Valve doesn't impede on you or your warranty when performing your own battery replacement.
Yeah allowing it without voiding the warranty is massively useful, but Valve does not make it easy to replace the battery and would likely be unable to sell it in the EU under the current design (ifixit suggests a 2-4 hour process for an experienced person). I think it’s a huge step up from some manufacturers, but a good number of changes would need to be done to make it actually user replaceable. I’m sure they’ll get there though!
3.5mm jack! Sd cards! IR transmitter!
Steam Deck has 2/3 but an IR blaster would be dope. I wish phones still had them too.
This is a fantastic change, every battery powered device should have self serviceable replaceable parts if it is safe for an untrained individual to do so.
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