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While they were happy with what the fairphone 4 brought to the table, they seem to like what was changed for the fairphone 5.
What are you guys' opinions on this? A welcome change? would you get one if your phone died within the next year?

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[–] ilovesatan@lemmy.world 126 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Too bad they don't sell them in the US. I would buy one immediately.

[–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 75 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)
[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Amazing.

I'm sick of buying a new phone every three years because the battery is dead or the processor is slow, nothing can be replaced without it being wildly expensive and now it's a paperweight.

[–] PeachMan@lemmy.world 61 points 2 years ago (12 children)

To be fair, I don't think the Fairphone will help much with outdated processors. You can't upgrade the processor inside, and it comes with a relatively slow processor from day one.

This phone is not for people that need performance; it's a very basic phone for people that value an ethical supply chain and repairability.

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[–] oshitwaddup@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz 25 points 2 years ago (3 children)

That and supporting grapheneos would do it for me

[–] alvvayson@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (18 children)

The Fairphone 4 supports /e/.

It seems graphene is limiting itself to Pixel devices. The developer is also mostly a one man show, so I don't think he has the capacity to support many devices. He's probably just busy keeping up with Pixel devices as-is.

What I would like to know is, how do /e/ and GrapheneOS compare.

Can't really find info on that.

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[–] AtmaJnana@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (4 children)

For me, the problem was that they don't support the right bands for US carriers.

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[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 86 points 2 years ago (29 children)

I really wish another viable mobile OS would come out. I don’t want android and apple iOS is wearing thin on me.

[–] Fog0555@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (4 children)
[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Perhaps next year will be the year of the Linux Phone. Alas, the same problems that plague the Linux desktop plague the phone. Lack of software.

It’s also very difficult to move out of the Apple ecosystem once everything just works the way you think it should. 

[–] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I'm quite interested in the developments on waydroid that would allow the use of Android apps on a Linux phone.

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[–] jacktherippah@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

Linux desktop is far more mature and there isn't even a year for the Linux desktop yet. Linux mobile will probably never take off within our lifetime lmao.

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[–] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 78 points 2 years ago (65 children)

And I give it a 0/10 on having a 3.5mm connector

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[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 55 points 2 years ago

If my FP4 dies in the next year, I will fix it. Because iFixit gave it 10/10.

[–] telllos@lemmy.world 54 points 2 years ago (7 children)

The number of comment that says " I would buy one, but" is amazing !

What this company is doing is what every company should do, from laptop to tablet. As well as tractors. Dot being able to repair what you buy is fundamentally flawed!

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (9 children)

TBF it's not available in the USA, and a lot of us are in the USA...plus even if we got one, a lot of the bands wouldn't work, so it's not like you'd have a good connection with it.

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[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 47 points 2 years ago (7 children)

As soon as my FP 3 dies they will hopefully have a new phone with a headphone jack. In 10 years or so.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 2 years ago

Don't forget to let them know that at the various consumer surveys they send regularly. But I wouldn't hold my breath...

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[–] dog_@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I want the headphone jack back.

[–] Sanyanov@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (16 children)

Lack of one is an immediate showstopper for me, too.

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[–] jacktherippah@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (15 children)

I would buy one if they shipped globally and it was about 100-150€ cheaper. The specs are not worth 700€. I would also need official GrapheneOS support as well.

[–] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 87 points 2 years ago

The specs are not worth 700€

That's what those specs are worth if everyone who's part of it gets compensated for their work appropriately.

Imagine the price of a Galaxy S23 if Samsung actually was fair to everyone involved.

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[–] kttnpunk@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (7 children)

I want a fucking headphone jack, thanks. Also 3 full size USB ports, a physical keyboard and a inch-thick battery, because fuck you.

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[–] arc@lemm.ee 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

I wouldn't say the Fairphone 5 wins prizes for looks or functionality but it does show that it is entirely possible to make a phone with a replaceable battery and repairable components in a modern form factor. If they, a small boutique phone maker can do it, then there is absolutely no excuse that Apple, Samsung, Oppo etc. cannot do the same.

One failing of Fairphone is you cannot buy the mainboard (the core component) from their store. All the other components yes, but not the mainboard. The core is not just the CPU, flash but also some other things like microphone are on it. It would also be nice if people could order all the parts that make up a Fairphone 5 and assemble one entirely from scratch.

I've also read through their ethics / green reports in the past, and while it talks it up with "supply chain engagement" reports and so on, most of their components are still made to order by Chinese OEMs so how far does it go down the chain in reality.

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[–] v81@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I like the Fairphone 5 but €40 for a case is unforgivable.

I'm feeling like it's a gouge because they know not many (if any) 3rd party cases exist.

[–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 34 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If you look at other recyclable or sustainable phone cases it's not actually that much expensive. It seems unreasonably priced if you compare them to cases that are not at all eco friendly.

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[–] DannyMac@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

Hey now, you're looking at this all wrong: if you break your phone because you didn't have a case on, it should be easily fixable! ;⁠-⁠)

[–] Neon@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I have a FP5 and honestly:

You don't want a case. Seriously.

Just get one of the Screen Protectors and you're good to go.

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[–] CritFail@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Still no 3.5mm jack, still no dice for me.

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[–] squirrelwithnut@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

I would totally buy one if they brought it to the US.

[–] egeres@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

The engineering team behind this must be amazing!

[–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

I would love to get one.

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 12 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I went with pixel 8 Pro and graphene os, but I did consider fp.

Can you even use a new fp in the US?

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