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[–] Candelestine@lemmy.ca 94 points 2 years ago (10 children)

Yeah, we need to spread out a little more. Fediverse is not about having centralized concentrations that can be targetted.

Ideally every minor Instance could have one major community located there, that could serve as the central space for that particular community. That's pretty impossible of course, but it paints the picture.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 37 points 2 years ago

I'm running a small instance, thelemmy.club

We even have built in Voyager/WefWef at app.thelemmy.club :P

I don't advertise is too often as I'm not trying to get huge, we have about 120 users and have been up a month. But we have plenty of resources to grow a little.

[–] serfraser@sopuli.xyz 24 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Mine is sorta like this, it's pretty quiet but then also happens to have the biggest Steam Deck community.

[–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz 12 points 2 years ago

It's also got the biggest community covering the Russo-Ukrainian war: !ukraine@sopuli.xyz

[–] vacuumpizzas@t.bobamilktea.xyz 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It has a few niche communities. !anarchychess@sopuli.xyz was the first community on your server that I subscribed to.

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[–] skulblaka@kbin.social 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Tinfoil hat theory: OG Lemmyheads are attacking the big centralized communities and taking them down in order to force all the new users to spread amongst the smaller instances like we're supposed to, preventing inevitable corporate control of the ActivityPub platform

I doubt that's anywhere close to the truth but I choose to believe it, crusty old hackers pulling the plug on their children for our own good

[–] Candelestine@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As possible as anything else, but it would be unusual. I find it strange that people are so eager to reach for unusual explanations when the actual, conventional extremist trolls absolutely exist. This would be 100% in-character for them, and would benefit their goals very clearly.

Occam's Razor.

Additionally, they would try to point the finger at absolutely everyone except for them, as that would clearly serve their goals of general misinformation and distrust.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 7 points 2 years ago

To be totally clear, they literally said it's a tinfoil theory. To me that implies they're just wildly speculating.

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[–] DharkStare@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

For communities, I feel like a good solution would be to let mods link similar communities from different instances together, sorta like an automatic cross post.

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[–] Ullallulloo@civilloquy.com 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Part of the problem is discoverability. If people don't use my instance, they rarely know we have independent communities like !todayilearned@civilloquy.com. Some, like !games@civilloquy.com are really shadowed by larger versions where some sort of multi community subscription could help a lot.

[–] Bozicus@lemmy.one 4 points 2 years ago

I think part of the solution is to normalize the idea that you subscribe to all the communities on a topic you're interested in, even if they're small, so wherever something gets posted, you see it. Eventually some of those communities may be closed in favor of the more active ones, but as a subscriber, there's no opportunity cost.

[–] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago

Ideally every minor Instance could have one major community located there, that could serve as the central space for that particular community. That’s pretty impossible of course, but it paints the picture.

You could probably do that if you had a centralised coordinator who could assi... I'll see myself out.

[–] 21racecar12@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I feel like we’re seeing the inherent flaws of the fediverse here in some aspects. A completely democratic spread or spread in general of communities doesn’t seem like it’s going to work. Real people and infrastructure are behind making sure instances with communities that serve large amounts of user requests stay up and operable. Infrastructure costs people and money, and people with right skills and fundraising skills are not evenly distributed.

If an instance touts itself to be a mega-instance, that’s one thing. Lemmy is still a confusing place to understand if I should create my own community or join one. Some communities and instances have a lot more % active users and moderators than others.

People are also lazy. Hosting your own instance is “easy” until you have a popular community, or handful of popular communities. Unless you treat it like a job, not a whole lot of people are interested in spending time figuring out fundraising and dev ops to ensure their community can deal with future user growth.

Money, talent, and physical infrastructure aren’t evenly and fairly available. So it makes it difficult to produce a federated universe that doesn’t reflect these things.

Can’t expect new users to go down the rabbit hole of trying to understand what instance they should make an account on. All instances will grow over time and we are seeing a lot of unevenness because of factors stated above. Instances will surely balance out as time goes on, so I think whoever is prematurely attacking large instances—whether they are doing so for fediverse axiom related issues or not—is making fundamental mistakes of fediverse theory.

[–] Philolurker@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

Like the anchor tenant of a shopping mall.

[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 years ago

Or every major community should exist on at least 3 instances for redundancy.

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[–] Holodeck_Moriarty@lemm.ee 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I highly recommend spreading out and creating accounts on other instances. Whenever one instance has issues or something, I just use another. That's the strength of the fediverse.

Plus, you might find (or create) some cool local posts, which helps spread out content.

[–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 years ago

Mastodon account also works as a backup since you can subscribe to communities and post comments from there.

[–] remkit@lemmy.kya.moe 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

truly tragic, communities should have never centralised on the top instances.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Centralization is natural, even in the fediverse. A successful lemmy is going to look like tens of large instances, a few hundred medium instances, and a ton of tiny and irrelevant instances. Even if federation and discovery get more transparent it's still likely going to be mostly centralized.

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[–] Rhaedas@kbin.social 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

There's only one person to blame for the sudden explosion of users of a new and undeveloped system. I see this all as a good thing to happen in the beginning, as it will help improve and solidify solutions now, rather than years later when things are more established. There will be shuffling and mirroring of communities, and tools made to help in that cause, and all of that will make the overall fediverse better.

[–] osti@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I guess I'm lucky to be on lemmy.ca, but it's concerning that a lot of the popular stuff is located on two servers. What's the point of the fediverse, then?

[–] Bozicus@lemmy.one 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The posted content is almost all backed up elsewhere, iirc. My understanding is that the risk is less having a huge amount of content being generated on specific servers than it is having a lot of users concentrated on those servers. Restoring data from backup or migrating communities (from a content perspective, as in, rehosting) is a lot easier than having people locked out, or, worse, losing accounts altogether.

[–] Ignacio@sopuli.xyz 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

When I'm sorting by all, instead of local or subscribed communities/magazines, everything I see comes from lemmy.world. It looks like Kbin/Sopuli/Beehaw are just a desert, until you sort by local and, aleluyah, there is updated content.

[–] Undearius@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] Ignacio@sopuli.xyz 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Probably, but I'm not sure, those words are very strange to me in English.

[–] Undearius@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago

Well you're doing better than most English speakers, and you got the word close enough to understand what you were saying. It's a strange word in english anyway

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[–] TheSaneWriter@lemmy.thesanewriter.com 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yeah, after what happened to VLemmy I decided to start my own instance, that way as long as I maintain it I know for a fact that it won't just go down.

[–] spiderplant 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

I keep seeing Vlemmy mentioned but I guess I missed the drama. Did the server admin unexpectedly shut the server down?

[–] lemann@lemmy.one 7 points 2 years ago

Pretty much, just vanished off the face of the earth. Donation links got shut down too. I've seen some discussions alleging there was an incident with law enforcement (A user uploaded "japanese underage child" content to the server, which was illegal in vlemmy's juristiction - ireland IIRC?) and shortly after that the server disappeared

[–] dingus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Was a budding smaller instance and then suddenly without warning it disappeared. I'm not sure if we know what happened, but it's actually one of the reasons why I want to stay on the bigger instances. Smaller ones have the risk of just poofing away one day...whereas larger ones may have occasional downtime and issues, your account is less likely to be unexpectedly lost to the void.

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[–] null@zerobytes.monster 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] FuckSpez@lemmy.one 5 points 2 years ago

While other instances are down, sh.itjust.works

[–] EricHill78@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago

I had to jump on my Kbin. I should probably create a 3rd account just as another backup.

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