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[–] Transcendant@lemmy.world 105 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

I lost a friend to ket. He was partying with bad people, he was sick, choked on his vomit and they stole his stuff / left him to die.

Ketamine is a very interesting ride, and has wonderful potential as an antidepressant, but for the love of yourself (and my badly missed friend, John the magic man), PLEASE have someone compus mentus watching over you while you experience it, if you choose to do so.

Also strongly recommend you DO NOT mix with alcohol.

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago (2 children)

And always review information on erowid’s website before using any drug

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

Oh erowid…. Brings me back to college

[–] Transcendant@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Erowid is a brilliant resource!

[–] flooppoolf@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Ketamine also should not be used in people with high blood pressure as it may further increase it and heart rates to dangerous levels.

Hot tubs increase heart rate as well however the blood pressure is lowered.

Oh yah, he had heart disease which is a no go with hot tubs.

[–] Crismus@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Not to mention Buprenorphine on top of the ketamine which is bad news with a hot tub.

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[–] kboy101222@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (5 children)

They gave me ketamine the last time I was in the hospital for pain so they could knock me out.

It was the single worst experience of my life, even worse than the injury I was being knocked out for. I was semi conscious the entire time, but I couldn't feel or hear anything. I just knew people were all around me doing something. It feels like I was dead for a while. I have very few memories from the time they first gave it to me in the ambulance to the time I woke up at home the next day.

Fucking awful experience all around. Next time I was in the hospital for an unrelated condition I told them I'd rather have zero pain medicine than even a tiny amount of ketamine

[–] Lowpast@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Low dose ketamine is drastically different than the dosage used to sedate someone

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[–] HonoraryMancunian@lemmy.world 66 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Matt Le Blanc:

"...I guess you’re keeping the 20 bucks you owe me.”

This is exactly the kind of humour Perry would've appreciated

[–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 47 points 2 years ago (3 children)

And Elon Musk eats that stuff for breakfast and keeps truckin' on. Life is unfair.

[–] NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world 86 points 2 years ago

He is not just truckin' along. The man looks like someone's aunt is trying to build mass. He looks like an uncooked weisswurst got a planet fitness membership. He is a torso made manifest. Hair plugs and ozempic riding the right-wing-pipeline down a k-hole.

[–] Sharpiemarker@feddit.de 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

Hot tubs + drugs don't mix. Even alcohol is dangerous because the effect of the hot tub increases the effects. We bought a hot tub recently and they're are dozens of warnings about drugs/alcohol.

My recommendation to Elon would be to have a nice big dose and take a long dip.

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[–] spiderkle@lemmy.ca 30 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Takes note: Don't do horse-tranquilizers alone in a bath, check. As a matter of fact don't do any analgesic/anesthetic with additional drugs in a bath, also check.

[–] RocketBoots@programming.dev 40 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (11 children)

Calling them horse tranquilizers is misleading. Ketamine was and still is used in medicine and is on the WHO list of essential medicines.

My cat is prescribed gabapentin. Some even get tramadol. Warfarin literally was rat poison until we got all but the craziest SOBs with an abundance of vitamin K in they're veins.

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

Yeah, I feel like there is a war on K because it can absolutely replace opiates in pre-hospital pain management. Break a leg? Let the medics hit you with ketamine. Oh, your BP is a little low? No worries, ketamine doesn't care.

It is better than an opiate with none of the contraindications. And I'm oversimplifying, but I can't help but think some of this news coming out is almost a hit piece to dub ketamine dangerous, when it is, in fact, magnitudes safer than opiates.

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[–] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

When Friends was current I wasn't a fan, the small bits I'd seen mostly annoyed me and - disaffected gothy teens/early twenties guy that I was - I dismissed it as one of those things everyone in the mainstream liked and was therefore obviously garbage.

Nowadays I'm married to a Friends fan who has begun showing me the series. As we progress through the box set I'm realizing it's actually pretty good, a couple of the characters actually still annoy me when they're focused on but there's a ton else going on that's pretty entertaining. I'm particularly surprised to be enjoying Chandler so much.

It's very sad what Matthew Perry went through in life and how he died, but I'm now belatedly appreciating some of the work he did.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Look for "Friends without laugh track" clips on Youtube.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

you can't just do that mate, same with Seinfeld, they were filmed in front of a live audience, they had to stop for laughter otherwise you wouldn't hear what they are saying.

or are you gonna come out and say Seinfeld isn't hilarious?

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[–] Underwaterbob@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm still not sure I'd call it good, but it was a big step up from sitcoms before it. It tried pretty hard to not be sexist, and introduced some diversity that wasn't just John Ritter pretending to be gay for lulz. It is still spectacularly unrealistic, but whatever. It's a sitcom! It does have some genuinely funny moments.

I still periodically get "Smelly Cat" stuck in my head. Fuck, I'm guilty of making Ross-esque synthesizer music...

[–] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Very true. There are also definitely still some 1990s-era LGBTQIA+ phobic jokes which were wrong then and really stick out now, but in general I'd call the writing surprisingly decent.

As a New Yorker, though, I still couldn't afford that apartment in a million years.

[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 years ago

I still couldn't afford that apartment in a million years.

Neither could they, it was rent controlled due to Monica's grandmother living there, and they illegally kept her name on the lease for the cheap rent.

And Chandler made good money, so he could afford the smaller 2 bedroom.

[–] dbilitated@aussie.zone 22 points 2 years ago

that's too much, man

[–] saze@feddit.uk 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Damn, I did not know Ket could depress respiration like this! In fact Ket is used medicinally in place of opioids as it doesn't depress respiration. But here is the TIL part: it should not be mixed with benzos or alcohol (or other depressants I would imagine). I don't use bu I hope someone who does get to read this.

[–] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

ketamine is anaesthetic and was used in the past in combat medicine and such, because it is quite safe when administered by untrained staff. the fact it is used to treat depression is new to me, but getting in the pool while high on it is the most stupid idea ever :(.

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[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] Staiden@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 years ago (3 children)

As someone who enjoys the near death experience of being a flattened disk of light energy folding in space time, this makes me sad.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Don’t worry. Consciousness is immortal so you’ll be able to live as much time as you want as a disc of light or whatever.

[–] Staiden@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago (5 children)

So I wouldn't actually want to be stuck in it forever. It's hard to explain but my k-holes are quite dark and dreadful, it's what I explained in my previous comment except looping. I don't have a physical body anymore and I'm just a thought process floating through space in a stream of color. There's this creeking noise like a door opening that starts off real low pitch and slowly speeds up to the point it's high pich and extremely fast. Then it's like hitting a wall and you fly in to a million pieces an slowly gather yourself in that state and then it repeats.

It feels like that is what you have been since the beginning of time. It feels like a near death experience and when i come out some kind of reverse psychology goes on in my brain. I just think about how much it would suck if that was real. My depression goes away for quite awhile afterwards.

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[–] IDontHavePantsOn@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Im fairly certain that what I'm about to say will be disliked by ketamine users and abstainers.

Ketamine is garbage at everything besides temporarily lobotomizing people. It works for it's many uses because it makes the user stupid. It's often given to suicidal people, not because it's a miracle drug, but because it incapacitates them in a safe manner.

That said, it's great at making people too stupid to be able to hurt themselves, most of the time. It's great at numbing psychological pain because the user will be too stupid to conceptualize their own thoughts or realize where they are physically.

It's also hard on the urinary system and has a fleeting high.

If you like ketamine then by all means, you do you. If you may be interested in trying ketamine, become a zombie safely, just don't expect it to cure your depression, woes, or any of your other problems.

[–] StorminNorman@lemmy.world 48 points 2 years ago (19 children)

Yeah, I'm gonna take the peer reviewed studies results that show that ketamine is quite effective with relieving drug resistant depression over this post of yours...

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[–] butterflyattack@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I would add to this that anyone doing ketamine should not do it in the bath, which seems to be what happened here. The same happened to someone I knew, she drowned in the tub.

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[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

No shit. In other news Epstein didn't hang himself.

[–] vankappa@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I didn't even think it was possible to die from ket. Although doing lots of ket in the water sounds like a planned suicide

[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (7 children)

You can die drinking too much water too fast, most drugs can easily kill you.

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