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Xbox Live Gold will apparently transition to Xbox Game Pass Core on Sept 1st

  • includes online multiplayer and various benefits
  • same price as XBLG
  • Existing XBLG subscribers will convert to Core
  • includes 25 Game Pass titles
  • GWG offers will end
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[–] chickenwing@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If this picture is legit then it's just a confusing rebrand. You now have 2 plans both about 10 dollars but one can't use multiplayer and one has a much smaller selection of games. That's confusing and lame imo. They should merge them into one.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Continuing the tradition of Microsoft being terrible at naming things.

[–] Techmaster@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Dunno, I'm just going to let my subscription expire and go back to buying the 1-2 games that come out each year. It comes out cheaper that way and you own the games.

[–] mtcerio@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You own the games? Really? Do you buy digitally? If yes, far from you own it. Do you buy physical copy? You think you own it, but then some games require a multi-GB day zero patch to start after installation. Some even require online connection and even log in.

[–] keenblaze@mastodon.social 1 points 2 years ago

@mtcerio @Techmaster yes when you buy a game physical or digital you only paid for a license to play it, which can be revoked at any time by the owner.

[–] Skiptrace@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The only platform that you own games on is GoG, everything else your SoL if Valve or EA or Microsoft day "Fuck you no more X game"

Gamepass is the better and cheaper way. It's 3 Triple A games worth of cost over 1 year. Which is... A bargain for what you get.

[–] Techmaster@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not when Xbox only gets 1-2 AAA games per year.

[–] Skiptrace@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago

What? Xbox gets many AAA games per year...

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Same price and XBLG? So itll be $5 a month instead of $10?

Also, they're deleting the name Xbox Live? That's a terrible decision if true.

[–] kadu@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Microsoft dropped "Live" branding from everything, Xbox was the only major service still using it. Makes sense.

Much like most new Apple products are called "Apple Something" rather than "iSomething"

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Having both Live and GamePass is confusing, and GP has the better brand right now. Ask people about GamePass, and they love it. Ask people about Live, and they’re still grumpy that MS made them pay to play Halo 2 and 3 online.

[–] Carter@feddit.uk 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There really needs to be a tier cheaper than Ultimate that includes online play but not PC Game Pass.

[–] Itchster@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yep that’s what I don’t understand just stick online play into the console game pass sub it would simplify things a lot

[–] Usually_Lurker@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My take is that the console and PC tier are the same exact thing. ( one for console users, one for PC users). This give you online multiplayer and access to more game pass games for an extra $1 per month. Unless you need both core and console to get access to the extra games. That is totally not worth it if true.

[–] Itchster@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Although this is based on "leaked" info that's how it works basically now, you don't get online multiplayer by subscribing to "Game Pass Console" you need to buy online play (Xbox Live) separately or just go for "Game Pass Ultimate" which bundles everything they offer. It just does not make sense. Currently, this is all the tiers or packages you can subscribe to:

  • Xbox Live Gold: Multiplayer, Games with Gold
  • Xbox Game Pass Console: Full Game Pass catalogue on Xbox Consoles, NO online multiplayer for Xbox consoles, NO EA Play for Console
  • Xbox Game Pass PC: Full Game Pass catalogue on PC, EA Play included for PC
  • Xbox Game Pass Ultimate: Full Game Pass catalogue for Xbox and PC, EA Play for Xbox and PC, Online Multiplayer for Xbox, Games with Gold for Xbox, Cloud Gaming

Since in their now official announcement on youtube that they are basically rebranding Gold to Game Pass Core and removing Games with gold while adding the 25 game pass games instead it just feels daft that they don't add online play to Game Pass Console. They could still differentiate Ultimate with the whole PC/Console Game Pass and EA play bundle while keeping cloud gaming to ultimate only.

[–] Usually_Lurker@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

That’s terrible. I guess it’s a way to “force” people into the higher ultimate tier.

[–] Skiptrace@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah, if they want any level of sales of Console Gamepass over Gamepass Core, then they will need to add Multiplayer to Gamepass Console.

Now, for me I'm still going to be using Ultimate because I have a PC and now a Series X (Through the Xbox All Access program which also gives 2 years of Gamepass Ultimate)

[–] daniyyel@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

It would be good if games with gold disappeared. Needing to redeem a game is just odd, especially if you can only play it as long as you have a subscription. It's also a bit unfair to people who subscribe later, they're missing a lot of the previous games. Just add everything to game pass.

[–] Veedems@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

So console doesn’t include multiplayer? That’s odd

[–] AlexanderTheGreat@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Very interesting if it turns out to be legit.

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