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[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

SCOTUS is just going to overturn it, right?

[–] Stillhart@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So then states don’t have rights?

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Well yea. There was a war about it and everything. States exist as inefficient middlemen and have no business dictating voting rights or federal office eligibility.

[–] Stillhart@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Whenever I hear "states rights" my mind immediately translates it to "I'm a racist". I'm not saying you're a racist, just that it makes you sound like one when you invoke "states rights".

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I hear the same thing, and I’m not invoking it here as something I believe in.

[–] Beetschnapps@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I drop this nugget a lot but basically you’re not wrong. The “states rights” argument is ignorant of history. At best it is a mindless parroting of racist dog whistles and at worst… it’s a racist dog whistle.

https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/exclusive-lee-atwaters-infamous-1981-interview-southern-strategy/

[–] joelthelion@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Could other states follow suit ?

[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

If the Supreme Court overturns it, I'd expect that'd apply to all the states. Basically no other state could leave Trump off the ballot on the basis of the insurrection part of the 14th Amendment.

[–] SaintWacko@midwest.social 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's good that someone said it, bit since that's already a blue state it doesn't really change anything, does it?

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 37 points 1 year ago

It's got to start somewhere. I highly doubt a red state would be the first one to do it, even if they wanted to - can you imagine the backlash they'd get? But if 20 other states have already done it, it's a lot easier to say "Well, we'll do it, too."

[–] SeedyOne@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago

I'm glad it's on the books at least. Have to start somewhere and set precedents otherwise nothing ever changes.

This ruling is regarding the upcoming primaries, (although I have to imagine it would apply to the general election as well assuming he gets the nomination) so it would deny him any delegates he would have otherwise won in CO. If enough other blue states barred him from running in their primaries, it could, hypothetically, result in someone else getting enough delegates to win the nomination at the convention, although I have no idea how likely that would be.

[–] moon@lemmy.cafe 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh come on, that's really unfair. I mean haven't we all committed a little bit of treason and have been impeached a few times?

[–] aphlamingphoenix@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Since his 91 (did I get that right?) indictments, he's attended multiple UFC events. I wonder if I'd be allowed to do that with that many pending felony violations.