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(the link is not paid for, nor does it go to, McAfee, it's malware)

Can't wait to fully migrate to Proton.

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[–] Synthead@lemmy.world 50 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Security Rating ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] NAXLAB@lemmy.world 44 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why are there ads in Gmail what is this? I have never seen ads in my Gmail app

[–] FakeGreekGirl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They only show if you have categories enabled, and then only on the Promotions category.

[–] thesmokingman@programming.dev 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] FakeGreekGirl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Just realized you're right. They show in all the tabs other than Inbox. Weak.

[–] thesmokingman@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago

It made me so mad when they appeared in updates. I don’t use categories anymore and went full inbox zero.

[–] Wirlocke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 41 points 2 years ago

Honestly it still would have been malware if it was actually McAfee.

[–] Paradachshund@lemmy.today 36 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There are ads in your gmail?

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes, even though I pay for Google One (sucker, I know).

My Google Workspace email doesn't have ads.

[–] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 25 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That's weird, on android Gmail I don't get any, even when searching.

[–] Paradachshund@lemmy.today 11 points 2 years ago

Yeah same. I have free personal Gmail and everything.

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Go to promotions, they're all in there.

I have some stuff that falls into promotions, so I check it occasionally.

[–] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I don't have promotions, I just have removed that one

[–] Polyester6435@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 2 years ago

Gmail serves you ads? Holy shit...

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

how does that even make it through google's qa?

thunderbird and k9 + a monthly donation to thunderbird rule :)

[–] PoolloverNathan@programming.dev 15 points 2 years ago

The content of the ads doesn't matter as long as they're paying for ads ;)

[–] DingoBilly@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If you use Gmail badly this it what happens.

I feel like this is more on the user than on the app. Haven't ever seen anything like this.

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It's the default Gmail layout, the one your average Joe who might seriously click on this would use.

If you remove your Promotions tab, it doesn't serve you ads.

[–] DingoBilly@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Exactly my point though.

If you're using the default settings for anything you're not going to have as good a time as spending a few minutes removing the crap.

It's the same whether it's Windows, Linux, Apple or whatever - the default is generally crap/annoying and you need to configure it.

[–] Fitzsimmons@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 years ago

Yeah no, applications need to be secure by default. Blaming the user does nothing to actually improve the security posture anywhere. The security posture of the app needs to be specifically designed with the least-skilled users in mind because they are also the most vulnerable to this type of problem. Google meanwhile is full of talented engineers who are experts at identifying and combatting this type of malware scam.

To look at it another way, what google is actually doing here is intentionally exposing their users to malware in order to take a cut in the form of advertising revenue.

[–] Coach@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Remove the "Promotions" tab. Ads are GONE!

As much as I hate Google and corporations altogether, maybe read the friggin' manual from time to time?

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The problem here is they're serving literal malware in their client, and the categorized view is the default, which the average person will use.

I've switched to K9 mail for that account, doesn't matter what the Gmail client does anymore.

[–] Coach@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The problem is...you allowed it. Could have just read and avoided the problem altogether. Again, I'm not thrilled with it, which is exactly why I chose to turn it off. Malware doesn't typically allow you to opt-out.

And let me know when K9 supports Exchange. Unfortunately, some of us still need to use protocols outside of IMAP and POP.

[–] thesmokingman@programming.dev 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Stop user shaming. You’re attacking an end user instead of attacking the dark pattern. The proper callout is “damn that sucks Gmail shouldn’t be serving ads that look like email btw did you know you can stop using categories to stop getting ads?” When you do things like “you should have known better” you’re completing ignoring the whole “Gmail shouldn’t be serving ads as emails” part.

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[–] Wirlocke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (8 children)

Look at the bigger picture, the default is what everyone including the elderly, kids, anyone not tech savvy, or anyone that doesn't want to search for the "don't serve me malware" setting for their friggin email.

The company is still liable if they officially promote dangerous stuff, even if the user could technically avoid it. Take the Panera Charged Lemonade scandal for example. The user shouldn't be forced to tiptoe around the email client itself.

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[–] Telcontar@lemmy.today 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ok thank you for this. I didn't even know you could add and remove categories

[–] thesmokingman@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago

AFAIK ads can be served in any category now. They were limited to promotions for a very long time. I turned off all categories a year or two ago when ads starting showing up in Updates.

[–] DoctorRoxxo@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Good question!

It's a privacy and security-focused productivity suite, mostly known for their Proton Mail product.

They don't sell your data, they're mostly open-sourced and get audited frequently.

[–] DoctorRoxxo@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Hmm interesting, I’ve been wanting to move away from outlook, I may need to look into this.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hello there, fellow Montrealer!

Yeah I changed my Gmail view recently and I get ads now too.

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Allo j'tai reconnu :D

Like I said elsewhere in the thread, I just switched to K9 mail, which is eventually going to become Thunderbird. Hopefully it's good 🤞

[–] dorumon@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is why I switched to K-9 Mail instead of using GMail because borderline Google was legitimately serving malware not just McAfee which isn't malware. Since it allows me to have my Gmail and other email accounts in it all at the same time instead of a dedicated app filled with ads leading to real malware.

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago

Oh this doesn't link to McAfee, this links to a scam site that may or may not send you to McAfee's website after clicking their big "buy now" button.

[–] aeronmelon@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

Buy a Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra and install McAfee on it. What could possibly go wrong?

[–] Zess@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

why would you open it lmao

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I didn't at first, I went through the kebab menu to report it, and it tells me which domain it points to.

I did click it eventually out of curiosity because I'm on Firefox with an ad blocker and privacy tools.

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The link within actually goes to McAfee, but I'm guessing it's some sort of smart switcher where it sometimes sends you to a fake checkout page?

[–] agileharddisk@lemmy.today 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I did click it eventually out of curiosity because I'm on Firefox with an ad blocker and privacy tools.

with javascripts being disabled, right? right?

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[–] PoolloverNathan@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's not McAfee, check the URL at the bottom.

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

I'm aware, the "renew subscription" button goes to McAfee, this is a scam page

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