A community to talk about the Fediverse and all it's related services using ActivityPub (Mastodon, Lemmy, KBin, etc).
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Instances are not shadow banning, they all listed in instance list page.
I didn’t get the mod drama thing. I guess this guy mixing instance admins with community mods.
Also, I don't think there is that much blocking between instances except Beehaw, since they want to create a refined user base.
Edit: what I was telling here is only applies to Lemmy. Looks like things are different for Mastodon side. So this comment may have a realistic view. I just don’t have enough experience on there.
I don't really expect 4channers to have reasonable opinions on moderation, the whole reason it's the way it is is because of lax moderation
4chan has lax moderation? I guess you've never seen their rules then and the bans their mods give
Whole reason 8chan is a thing is because they think 4chan has too much moderation
On Lemmy, it's shown. On Mastodon, instances are given the ability to hide their blocked instances which IMO hinders people's ability to join. A lot of the drama on the fediverse with regards to blocking is from Mastodon and similar instances.
People claim the instance you join doesn't matter because "everything is federated!" but it kind of does. It strongly affects the people who will see your posts and even who you can follow, and if you don't know what an instance is blocking it creates an air of uncertainty. I've seen instances get blocked for stupid at best and downright malicious at worst reasons, so the 4chan post isn't inherently wrong.
The largest instances all block many other instances and they are all in favor of federating with Meta as well.
To be fair, a lot of the blocking are of instances that are causing lots of moderation problems, since they post things that upset many users.
Most users actually prefer a walled garden experience so they don't have to see things that upsets them. As long as they feel the walled garden has sensible rules.
I don’t think that applies to Lemmy. lemmy.world, sh.itjust.works, lemm.ee, lemmy.ml and other big instances are all federated with each other.
I really can’t talk about Mastodon or Kbin though.
Ya hopefully that was an insanely swreping bit just now. I want NOTHING to do with fucking Meta
You don't have to fuck Meta, but unfortunately Meta will still fuck you.
This is getting way to meta for me to understand ;)
that’s… that’s illegal?
I've gotten used to just accessing Lemmy through the Eternity app.
How would I look at the graph showing instances and which ones are connected to each other?
This site lists the ones that are and aren't federated with Threads. I don't know of a complete list of all the instances and all their federations, though.
Thank god it isn’t people quoting posts and adding their amazing commentary such as…. “lol”
The very nature of the fediverse makes fragmentation part of it. Since it's not centralized, control is distributed to the different instance admins. It's only natural that people with different opinions will want to split from each other, and that's without taking into account the levels of toxicity allowed by different moderators.
Is an instance allowing racists to thrive in there? Of course it will be blocked by leftists, since banning is a concept that no longer applies.
Let me repeat for clarity: You CANNOT ban someone from the fediverse, you can ONLY defederate from them.
And don't tell me it's that much different from reddit, I've seen political subs denying access to people simply based on what other subreddits they're subscribed to.
Would you rather have a single hierarchical "network" where an asshole dictator decides who is and who isn't allowed to post? Of course not, otherwise you wouldn't be here.
Federation implies defederating instances you're not comfortable with.
And that's perfectly fine, because safety comes first.
My freedom of association necessarily implies that I'm free NOT to associate with people I don't like, and my insurance admin should be able to make sure I'm free from harassment by those same people.
Want to solve this issue? Solve human nature first.
Not just political subs. I’ve been banned from silly video subs just for commenting on /r/conservative.
Oh I thought we were on the shitposting or meme community.
Yeah this is a broad over exaggeration of the situation. Also using 4chan to drive a point is so over done to the point its a meme in itself.
No one who goes to 4chan in the 2020s has a viewpoint worth listening to. At best they just like trolling idiots.
My experience, there have been probably 2-3 instances that soak up and revel in the drama (for both microblogging and Lemmy) - everyone else just blocks bad actors like normal and moves on with their lives.
A lot more of a realistic take than this place fixing every issue with Reddit, to be honest.
It doesn't need to fix every issue. It just need to be better on the areas where it matters to most people.
yeah, no ads, no algorithms, no shitty monetisation attempts, no central authority limiting how people can access it, tons of different clients to choose from, etc.
now it's just instances being at war, not subreddits. but fuck threads, get that shit out of here.
Found a problem user.
This account is a troll, I suggest to block this user. Just check their post history...
So you agree?
Okay, that's funny.