Fediverse

There might be no benefit to you but the people who would be the direct targets of every hate group like LibsOfTikTok currently active on Threads probably feel a bit differently.

This is in no way a knee-jerk reaction to a hypothetical alarm. Meta have directly contributed to a genocide and allow hate groups to grow unchecked on Threads. It blows my mind that the fediverse - itself built as a series of alternatives to shitty companies doing shitty things - thinks the harm Meta will do is hypothetical and unproven.

The benefits to not federating are many, but the best one, in my opinion, is not exposing current fediverse users who will be targeted to those who will target them.

I can tell you one benefit: Money. Most of my server's costs come from storing federated content. Federating with threads would likely be expensive.

You should read this. https://erinkissane.com/untangling-threads

By federating your instance to Threads, you are providing more content to Meta for them to place ads next to, supporting a network that allows abuse orgs like Libs of TikTok with limited moderation.

Consider this scenario: LoT sees a post you made on Lemmy. They select you as a random target of hate, as they did hundreds of people at the beginning of this year.

Their followers start going after you, but you don't know it because you block them. It turns to real life harassment.

This is a real issue, one of many.

As an instance admin it seems incredibly irresponsible to allow my server to spoon feed Meta my users data and activity through federation.

And Meta proved many, many times that they are utterly untrustworthy.

Honestly, even if I agree in principle, the fediverse has exhausted any sympathy from me given that there's consistent toxicity towards people who don't "get it", people who aren't open-source tech nerds or fediverse evangelists. There's this constant smugness that the fediverse and its community is better than everything else and it has no problems or the problems that do exist is how the fediverse should work. No, not everyone is like that, but the ones that are make the fediverse experience that much more painful and I'd rather just use Bluesky, even though it's janky and much more limited in features.

Not even talking about Threads, either. I think this issue is quite prevalent on Lemmy but I remember Technology Connections having this issue on the Mastodon side to the point where he got angry too.

They are probably mean including mastodon, which is larger and generally federates with threads

First as tragedy, then as ~~farce~~ kbin.social