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[–] toasteecup@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Cory Doctorow Lazy

Hahahaha that's rich

[–] Moira_Mayhem@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean I don't even really like the guy but I gotta admit he's prolific af

[–] toasteecup@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I appreciate his advocacy quite a bit

[–] crsu@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'd like to see him do a shift at the warehouse and not get fired

[–] toasteecup@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

So let me get this right, you'd like to see a guy who has a background in software and has done more advocation for better intellectual property rights, better regulation of corporations and general user roghts than eother of us will likely ever accomplish in our lifetimes.

And you like to put this guy into a warehouse and see him not get fired?

...Wat.

[–] nodsocket@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I agree with you. If a person cannot spend 8 hours a day lifting boxes in a warehouse then they are of no value to society. Simple as that.

[–] Neato@kbin.social 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This needs explanation. Enshittification is a very cromulent word.

[–] Masterblaster@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago

^this guy gets it

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 2 years ago

It's an unpopular opinion community, not an unpopular statement with no context community.

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 15 points 2 years ago

And "stupid" is an ableist word used by lazy people who also don't care about throwing disabled people under the bus. ¯\(ツ)

[–] ttmrichter@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Likely a popular opinion: @whosiearth@lemmy.ca is mostly a troll who seems, in his history, to adopt contrarian views just to get a response, thus disguising from himself the emptiness that rings hollowly where he once had a life.

[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Got a better word for the same phenomenon?

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

deterioration

decay

demise

corrosion

adulteration

[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

None of those capture the same meaning. Doing something "shitty" has the meaning that it's not just bad or inferior. It's deliberately malicious. and "shit" being the root word in "enshittification" imparts an essence of the same meaning.

Most of these suggestions make it sound like the products/services/apps/whatever in question are kindof inevitably breaking down over time in a way that makes them less useful rather than being leveraged in hostile ways to fuck over their own customers. "Adulteration" at least has a feeling of deliberate sabotage to it, but it still doesn't capture the customer hostility.

Plus, those words aren't unique enough on their own. I'd probably want to prefix them with something else like "platform" or something. "Platform deterioration" for instance.

If I were to come up with an alternative to "enshittification" that captured what I thought was important, maybe something like "creeping capitalistic customer-directed hostile service changes," but that's a mouthful and excludes some things I might consider "enshittification". What about "profit-driven corporate dick moves that make products and services permanently less useful to consumers?"

I dunno. "Enshittification" seems pretty perfect, I think. Everybody knows what it means. Everybody knows it when they see it. Companies do it constantly. And we've needed the term for a long time. It's good that we have it now, I think.

[–] the_q@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago
[–] baldingpudenda@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I can't tell if it's down voted for not being an unpopular idea or not.

[–] magnetosphere@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago

I would guess that it’s being downvoted because it’s just a statement - not a well explained idea. The post itself seems lazy, not the word that’s being criticized with no reason given.