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[–] Huhni@lemmy.world 118 points 2 years ago (33 children)

That wouldn't have happened if the 1-year-old had a gun 🤔

[–] PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee 24 points 2 years ago

Or if the family lived almost anywhere else in the world.

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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 61 points 2 years ago (6 children)

lock the parents up and get that kid some lifelong counseling.

as a gun owner... I find not locking up your weapons abhorrent.

[–] HolyDiver@lemmy.world 55 points 2 years ago (2 children)

as a non American I find owning guns abhorrent but to each their own

[–] Wolf@lemm.ee 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

As a hunter I own quite a few, but guess what? They are all fucking locked up in a safe and I don’t have any children, just my wife and I. How anyone could have children and think it’s ok to leave a firearm around is asinine.

[–] stringere@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

I took away my son's bb and pellet guns because I caught him waving his rifle around like a toy.

"But it wasn't loaded!"

"Then you obviously forgot or ignored the very first thing I taught you."

[–] Ataraxia@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

As an Italian surrounded by guns who has them and hates them but might need to ruin my life by defending myself against a crazed neighbor... They're abhorrent. There's no good that comes from a gun.

[–] NickDangerThirdEye@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago

Agreed, as terrible a thing as it is to happen to a parent it needs to be punished when this occurs. Someone was obviously negligent with a gun around a child. If it was put away properly this wouldn't have happened.

[–] sci@feddit.nl 6 points 2 years ago

But how can i enjoy my right to bear arms if my weapons are locked up

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[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 53 points 2 years ago

To the rest of the world, this would be an exceedingly rare headline.

For Americans, it is just any other Tuesday.

[–] HandOfDoom@lemmy.world 47 points 2 years ago (2 children)

American solution: put the 3yo in prison for forced labour and arm all 1 year olds so they can defend themselves.

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Gun manufacturers: heavy breathing

[–] sadbehr@lemmy.nz 4 points 2 years ago

Use the 3 year olds in prison to make the guns for the 1 year olds to arm themselves! Fuckin bang two for one.

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[–] provisional@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 years ago

Then send thoughts and prayers when it happens over and over again. We've done nothing to fix the problem and there's nothing we can do about it!

[–] mightysashiman@kbin.social 36 points 2 years ago (2 children)

the 2 common culprits in all these horrible stories are: 1) human stupidity 2) gun proliferation. solving the first would require eugenism. solving the second is a big american no-no. So don’t call it horrible, just live with it. It’s just a normal by-product of american culture.

[–] Ichi_matsu@ttrpg.network 23 points 2 years ago (2 children)

IMHO solving 1 needed educations, but that’s also a big American no-no, so we’re back to square one.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

IMHO solving 1 needed educations, but that’s also a big American no-no

No it's not. For all of their ills, stupidity, nonsense, fraud, and extremely questionable decisions the NRA does run education campaigns with their "Eddie Eagle" program. A big problem is that it has been kicked out of schools, especially schools in Blue States, so they're unable to reach one of the audiences that need it the most.

It's like Red States kicking Sex Education out of schools and being shocked at teen pregnancies. Education works far better than restriction. Always.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

it has been kicked out of schools

So, as @Ichi_matsu@ttrpg.network said, it's a big no-no for Americans.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

I hadn't thought of it quite that way but I suppose so. American's do seem to have a nasty habit of not wanting to teach our children about things we don't like.

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Yeah, I'm not sure eugenics is ever the answer

Wtf?

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[–] morgan_423@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago

It's not immediately clear if any parents were in the home at the time of the shooting.

I guess it tracks that if they left a toddler and a baby in the house alone, they'd also be irresponsible enough to leave a weapon just sitting out unsecured and loaded. What a tragedy.

[–] sadbehr@lemmy.nz 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sending yet more thoughts and prayers /s.

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sounds like the owner needs to be charged. Unfortunately they rarely are.

[–] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is California. We are required by law to lock away our firearms and have safety locks on them. I hope the parents get fucked so hard, shit will be pushed out of their mouths. They are fuckin idiots.

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[–] Tetra@kbin.social 17 points 2 years ago

Clearly we need to arm 1 year olds so they can defend themselves

[–] BlackMark3tBaby@lemmynsfw.com 14 points 2 years ago

"As of July 12, there have been at least 217 unintentional shootings by children, which have resulted in 76 deaths and 149 injuries so far in 2023, according to a count by the gun control nonprofit Everytown for Gun Safety"

[–] MasterObee@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Trigger locks are not hard to get and are inexpensive.

I'm iffy on more gun control, but if there is something I'd want to do, it'd be requiring businesses to provide a trigger lock with each sale.

[–] TIEPilot@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

Reputable gun shops provide them free of charge w/ every sale.

/gun collector

[–] Ataraxia@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (5 children)

The average American is too dumb to own guns and I say this from a household with several guns. Seriously would rather not have them if that means idiots and the mentally unstable don't either.

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[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

...it’d be requiring businesses to provide a trigger lock with each sale.

Pretty much is in the State of California. This is yet another instance of someone not following the basic god damned rules of firearm safety.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

You can only do so much to encourage gun safety, but when you get to this point I think it's only fitting to charge the gun owner with a felony and forbid them from ever owning a firearm again.

[–] pedro@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

With a 3 year old, even just emptying the gun would have been effective. Or putting it in heights

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