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[–] n3cr0@lemmy.world 84 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That meme clearly comes from an emacs fanboy.

[–] polle@feddit.de 11 points 2 years ago (6 children)

emacs

I actually don't know what emacs means. I only remember having struggles in understanding anyone who likes vim, because it mostly just confused me. But Probably its just what you are used to. The Meme is still funny, though.

[–] r00ty@kbin.life 16 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Don't discount the possibility that some people that use vim, are old enough to remember using vi, over a modem connection. When you know the keyboard shortcuts it can be a lot quicker too even now.

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Wait, I thought we were still using vi.

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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

That would be me. I still call it "vi", default to it, and use "less" to preview files because I do almost everything on CLI. Vi is incredibly fast and powerful once you know it like second nature. I prefer vi over most, but the learning curve is a beast.

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[–] n3cr0@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

vim is a little hard to get into, but from there its benefits pay off with lots of features. On the other hand there is emacs, with an even steeper learning curve (*cough* long inconvenient button combos!), but it's considered so powerful, some say it's a separate operating system.

[–] Reorder9543@social.fossware.space 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They say Emacs is an amazing OS, with the best calendar, to-do list, email client, etc. Just missing a good text editor.

[–] cnx@slrpnk.net 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Guess what, you can run Vim inside Emacs inside Vim inside Emacs now!

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[–] outdated_belated@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

emacs has a steeper learning curve? You can M-x <type stuff> tab to figure out how to do stuff, which is easier than Vim for learning IMO

[–] TheFrogThatFlies@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

:help tab

It's much harder, you're right! :P

[–] flux@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It comes from the words "Eight Megs And Constantly Swapping".

Yeah, the name hasn't aged well..

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[–] jecxjo@midwest.social 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What's even more crazy is when you've used vim exclusively for 30 years to the point where you sit down at someone else's computer and you try to use their editor and you are completely lost. You fumble around like you're an elderly person who doesn't know what a computer is, type random letters all over. You look senile.

But then you show them on your computer how you can record a macro of your key commands and then use a regex to match different blocks of similar text and apply the same commands all at once. And because you used navigation based on words and lines rather than characters it all just works.

[–] abraxas@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I think that's true of all editors, though. I ended up on the intellij side of things, and it means I'm clueless about VSCode's key patterns. I've only picked up ctrl-p so far, and keep having to remind myself "this is shift-shift in Microsoft"

[–] tool@r.rosettast0ned.com 5 points 2 years ago

VSCode is what made me finally switch away from vim for anything but minor edits. It's just too good.

I did set up vim keybindings in it, though.

[–] icydefiance@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Just to be helpful:

  • Alt+Shift+Up/Down to duplicate a line (IIRC on Linux this defaults to something more complicated and it's dumb so I changed it to match Windows and OS X)
  • Ctrl+D to create multiple cursors
  • Ctrl+Space to open autocomplete
  • Ctrl+Period to open the little lightbulb menu that sometimes appears next to your cursor
  • Ctrl+Shift+P to search for commands, so you don't need to remember any other shortcuts

Honestly that's about all of the shortcuts I use. The Ctrl+Shift+P menu will show you the keyboard shortcut next to the command, if it has one, so you can easily memorize it if you use a command often.

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You can emulate double shift in VSC. It will be slightly different since it doesn't automatically search actions and file names. So if you bind it to Quick Open as suggested by the link, you'll have to put > to search actions and not files.

[–] toofarapart@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

For my vim journey it was the draw of being able to quickly navigate and manipulate text without ever needing my hands to move away from the home row on the keyboard, and being willing to put in the time and effort to push past the learning curve.

[–] tool@r.rosettast0ned.com 7 points 2 years ago

I first settled on vim as a teenager because I was a fan of... performing surprise penetration tests.

It defaults to opening files read-only, so you don't have to worry about the access/modified time on the file changing if you open one for... science reasons.

[–] _hovi_@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Nvim user so imo it would be funnier if it was about getting caught up in spending more time customising the editor than using it or something, but atm just reads like someone who only got as far as opening vim and not being able to figure out how to close it

[–] chandz05@lemmy.world 67 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] netburnr@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

You forgot to his escape twice first. You're in insert mode sir.

[–] chandz05@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

More like ... Just in case

[–] tool@r.rosettast0ned.com 4 points 2 years ago

More like ... Just in case

MY PEOPLE!

[–] kbotc@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

META-c. My hands on meta and ESC is all the way over there

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[–] chinpokomon@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] cnx@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

:q!<CR> is equivalent to ZQ

[–] flux@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

^Zkill -9 %1 is the only way.

kill -9 -1 if that doesn't work.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago

This whole thread. I think you're just hitting random keys.

I think you mean to say ![4Zæ]>§??+

[–] unexpected@lemm.ee 45 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The editor so good people never learn to leave it.

[–] BearPerson@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago

Take my angry upvote

[–] dukk@programming.dev 31 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Out of curiosity, I wondered what the original meme was. Found them and thought I’d share them:

Here’s the original: https://i.imgur.com/kERuZkW.jpg

And here’s the one that this is based off (slightly different): https://i.imgur.com/HFwENsd.png

[–] Xylight@lemmy.xylight.dev 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

BTW, just in case you didn't know, you can put images directly in your comment with this:

![alt text (optional)](image url)

[–] dukk@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago

I didn’t know that, will use in the future. Thanks!

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[–] mawkler@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 years ago

Neovim is awesome

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In a moment of weakness I configured the Visual Studio to use Vim as input method and now I don't know how to change it back.

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[–] SpoilMaster@feddit.nu 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My entire first year as a network student was a Bernie meme: "i am once again asking, how do i exit vim?"

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[–] eddanja@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (3 children)
[–] kbotc@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

But why?

Did you start with busybox and just decide to stay there?

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[–] WhereGrapesMayRule@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

I can quit whenever I like. I just don't want to eyes shifting nervously

[–] socsa@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago

Op, we have decided to go with a different candidate

[–] dustyCheese@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago

They give us their ‘cures’ (neovim) while they suppress our medicine (emacs)

[–] PlexSheep@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Are you looking to break the fragile peace we have? :%s/polle/fellow-vim-user/gc

[–] bigwag1@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

.. the cleaning paste?

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